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Post by Vince524 on Feb 12, 2020 15:02:27 GMT -5
If Biden and Warren drop out, the question is who do their supporters flock to. If they split between Klobuchar and Buttigieg, then maybe you're right. If they pick either one, that person will probably rise to the top.
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Post by prozyan on Feb 12, 2020 16:45:15 GMT -5
Warren and Biden have supporters?
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Post by michaelw on Feb 12, 2020 18:36:44 GMT -5
Warren and Biden have supporters? I heard even Hunter Biden is voting for Trump.
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Post by mikey on Feb 12, 2020 19:20:13 GMT -5
Warren and Biden have supporters? I heard even Hunter Biden is voting for Trump. Impeachable quid pro quo at last?
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Post by robeiae on Feb 16, 2020 8:05:01 GMT -5
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Post by Optimus on Feb 16, 2020 12:58:43 GMT -5
I'm not sure if the rumour that he'll name Hillary Clinton as his running mate helps him or hurts him.
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Post by robeiae on Feb 17, 2020 7:57:03 GMT -5
Mike has a lot of baggage: www.foxnews.com/politics/bloomberg-implied-farming-is-easy-in-2016-commentsI'm guessing Mike couldn't actually grow corn, even if his life depended on it. Regardless, this is not a guy set to win votes across the spectrum. He's DOA in the General Election, yet he might end up buying the nomination. Every day, it seems more and more likely that we're gonna get another four years of Trump.
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Post by robeiae on Feb 19, 2020 9:52:09 GMT -5
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Post by Optimus on Feb 19, 2020 10:05:49 GMT -5
And he keeps getting so many establishment, "progressive" leaders (including several black leaders from SC) to support him simply because he's on "their team." Because he's their "best chance at beating Trump." Because they're gonna "#VoteBlueNoMatterWho."
It's both hilarious and sad to see many of them engage in the exact type of "la la la, I can't hear you!" fingers-in-the-ears tribalism that progressives have criticized Republican voters for because they voted for Trump.
It'll be interesting to see how the other candidates team up against him in the debate this week. I expect to see Warren attack him pretty viciously in the hopes that it will save her "on life support" campaign.
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Post by robeiae on Feb 19, 2020 10:22:05 GMT -5
This is an interesting read and has the potential to really hurt Klobuchar, if she were to keep moving up: apnews.com/115076e2bd194cfa7560cb4642ab8038One of those co-defendants insists he pulled the trigger (he got 45 years, not life): This all stinks badly.
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Post by Vince524 on Feb 19, 2020 12:49:20 GMT -5
This is an interesting read and has the potential to really hurt Klobuchar, if she were to keep moving up: apnews.com/115076e2bd194cfa7560cb4642ab8038One of those co-defendants insists he pulled the trigger (he got 45 years, not life): This all stinks badly. It does, but it's fairly standard for some prosecutors with lofty ambitions. They needed someone to be the bad guy, and Burrell was it. I know many prosecutors have the integrity to not do this, but clearly Klobuchar does not. The irony is, her presidential bid might be the political push needed to get the poor man out of prison, because otherwise nobody gives a shit.
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Post by robeiae on Feb 20, 2020 9:46:05 GMT -5
Didn't watch the debate last night. Watched AEW wrestling instead. Helluva show. In the big opening match, the tag team everyone had written off, the team that was once on the top but had been losing a lot of late, came out of nowhere to score a massive win.
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Post by Optimus on Feb 20, 2020 19:16:53 GMT -5
Didn't watch the debate last night. Watched AEW wrestling instead. Helluva show. In the big opening match, the tag team everyone had written off, the team that was once on the top but had been losing a lot of late, came out of nowhere to score a massive win. You sure that wasn't the debate? Unfortunately, I don't have cable so I can only watch AEW Dark on their YouTube channel and then catch the "not so legal" rebroadcasts on YouTube of Dynamite. That steel cage backflip by Cody Rhodes was pretty insane, though. As for the debate, Warren served up a crap ton of juicy red meat for her followers, "nuking Bloomberg from orbit" as the kids say, but I don't think it'll help her in the long run. Could hurt Bloomberg but the cynic in me thinks he'll probably just continue to buy people's affections. Warren also ripped into everyone and then hypocritically said that the Democrats aren't gonna win by attacking everyone. She also insulted Klobuchar with that "Post-It Note" jab and then later hypocritically acted like she was all offended that Buttigieg questioned Klobuchar's knowledge of things she should know (given her committee appointments and claims of foreign policy expertise). I also legitimately forgot that Biden was even there until he piped up to offer some rambling retort to a point I've totally forgotten. Not sure how it's gonna go but Saturday should be interesting. I doubt Buttigieg and Klobuchar will finish as well as they did in NH. I think it'll be Sanders, Biden/Bloomberg, Buttigieg/Warren, and then Klobuchar. Not sure who will be 2nd/3rd (Biden and Bloom could flip places) or 4th/5th (same for Buttigieg and Warren).
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Post by robeiae on Feb 21, 2020 9:27:47 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree with all that (and yeah, I was alluding to the debate with my wrestling reference). Bloomberg is not gonna stop spending and Warren is still on the outside looking in.
But I just can't get past the Bloomberg support I'm seeing, especially from the never-Trumpers. He's Trump 2.0, without the twitter presence. Plus, he's also a nanny-stater. Any "conservative" who says that they'll vote Bloomberg in order to get rid of Trump is--imo--completely blinded by their hatred of Trump.
Beyond that, I was disappointed in Klobuchar, insofar as she let Mayor Pete get under her skin and had been--until now--an excellent debater.
And Biden...he needs to step down, imo. He's not up for this anymore. It's too bad, but it is what it is.
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Post by Vince524 on Feb 21, 2020 9:50:19 GMT -5
Bloomberg seems to be Trump with better hair, and probably smarter, in the way a dog is smarter than the fire hydrant he pees on.
I was willing to give Warren a chance, but I'm not impressed with her or anything she's said.
I've never liked Biden.
I have reservations about Klobuchar because of stuff I've heard, similar to what you said. Plus, will she throw staplers at congress. (Okay, that might be fun to watch.)
Buttigieg hasn't said anything to turn me off, and I've heard some stuff I like. Still don't know him very well, but if I were to have to vote today, it would be him.
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