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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 22:31:42 GMT -5
But then, living in NYC is actually kinda like this...
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Post by Optimus on Dec 20, 2016 22:36:51 GMT -5
Ha, I laughed a lot when I first saw it, because it's quite accurate.
Reminds me of this one:
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Post by Don on Dec 21, 2016 6:53:15 GMT -5
I think I know the people in those two skits. Or at least people who should be in those two skits.
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Post by robeiae on Dec 21, 2016 7:29:16 GMT -5
You people need to check your privilege.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 13:33:47 GMT -5
Heh. Speaking of "privilege," some favorite bits of the video I posted in the OP: -- an apartment in the "diverse" Bubble where "anyone" could live started at $1.9 million for a one bedroom apartment -- the fact that pretty much everyone in the Bubble was white and living a lifestyle that very few could afford -- the fabulously fatuous "we don't see color, but we celebrate it" -- and the Bubble's one Black woman resident's expression when he said it. -- the wonderful little dig at the bar conversation (where white people are doing nothing but totally agreeing with each other) as "diverse." I'm on board, as many of you will have gathered, with a big pile of liberal/progressive values and ideas. But (living in a real-life version of The Bubble) I find it deliciously ironic to hear the many well-off white folks around me lamenting the "privilege" of much poorer white people who struggle to make ends meet (seemingly unaware of their own privilege in never having experienced economic difficulty). I giggle just a bit as they storm on about the importance of buying local organic vegetables, not eating factory-farmed meat, driving hybrid cars, etc., basking in their own superior choices -- without much consideration for the fact that all that shit costs money that, hello, a lot of people don't have. I roll my eyes when they talk about the importance of "diversity" and "tolerance" when (a) I watched them scramble to get their children into private schools when they found their children's district would put them in a struggling, heavily-minority public school, (b) I watched them buy, gut and renovate homes they purchased for a song in once-lower-priced minority neighborhoods, drive prices up and people out, and celebrate the rise of pricey boutiques and restaurants around them (while the original neighborhood businesses die), all the while bragging about how they moved into a diverse neighborhood, and (c) much like that bar scene, they only want to talk to people who agree with them, and shut down everyone else. Also delicious -- they see and lament the bizarreness of Donald Trump, billionaire, somehow becoming the spokesperson for poor whites, because how could he possibly relate to their lives? How ignorant those poor white ignoramuses must be to buy into it! But they don't see the irony in themselves proclaiming to speak for poor minorities, and the irony of their failing to understand how, apparently, not enough of those minorities were sufficiently enthusiastic about a wealthy white woman to come out and vote for her in quite the same overwhelming droves as they did for Obama (even when the alternative was Donald Trump). It's not that I have a problem with their lives -- but I do have a problem with their insufferably smug preaching and their bizarre blindness to the fact that they live in their own little privileged bubble. They could actually do a fair bit to help "diversity," "tolerance" and the underprivileged if they chose. You know -- send their kids to their local school district and work to improve it. Work to keep affordable housing in their neighborhoods (where, ahem, it was) instead of mouthing off on how we need to build new affordable housing in, yanno, another borough. Support those local businesses -- e.g., get a chopped cheese for four bucks at the local bodega instead of paying $8 for one at Whole Foods. Hey, they could even have befriended their old neighbors, if they'd managed to catch them before they were forced to move! But no. They'd rather just preach about privilege with other like-minded wealthy white people and bask in their own superiority. eta: OK, certainly the above does not describe all progressives, nor does it describe all people in NYC. Not by any means. But it is a pretty fair description of an awful lot of people I know.
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Post by Amadan on Dec 21, 2016 16:49:19 GMT -5
Yeah, the SNL sketch was funny (I loved the black woman's expression too). The second one was funny but not as funny, since it was pretty much just "Hahahah SJWs suck and are stupid!" I can see that on the "TUMBLRINACTION" subreddit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 20:26:38 GMT -5
another priceless detail -- the face on The Bubble's dollar bill? Bernie Sanders.
I really think it's one of SNL's better pieces of satire.
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Post by robeiae on Dec 21, 2016 20:28:52 GMT -5
I'm still not positive it's satire...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 20:34:07 GMT -5
Good point. It's basically my neighborhood.
Eta:
I've watched it 3 or 4 times just to see the "we celebrate color" and the woman's reaction expression again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 21:27:00 GMT -5
This one is good, too -- clearly it's been a mistake for me to miss watching SNL since the election. To be honest, I assumed it would be all mopey and self-righteous, and I was getting enough of that in real life. But this stuff? Yeah, bring it on!
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Post by Amadan on Dec 22, 2016 9:48:05 GMT -5
Oh, SNL has always been self-aware enough to puncture liberal pretensions, despite their own leftward leanings. One reason it has stayed popular over the years is they always laid into both sides often enough that conservatives enjoy it too.
"You've got a big day of moping and writing on Facebook tomorrow."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 10:56:57 GMT -5
Oh, SNL has always been self-aware enough to puncture liberal pretensions, despite their own leftward leanings. One reason it has stayed popular over the years is they always laid into both sides often enough that conservatives enjoy it too. "You've got a big day of moping and writing on Facebook tomorrow." That's definitely my favorite line. I admit I spent a day staggering around in shock after the election. I can relate to the characters who just can't grasp it's happening. Now, though, I feel more like I relate to the perspective of the black characters who aren't happy, but also are not particularly surprised or knocked flat by it. And I can join them in laughing and shaking my head at my own naivety (or whatever you'd like to call it) prior to the election. Second favorite line -- them bursting into laughter when one of the characters wails "this is the worst thing America has ever done!"
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Post by robeiae on Dec 22, 2016 11:11:39 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2016 11:26:23 GMT -5
Speaking of SNL, I may have offended a real-life friend who was complaining about Alec Baldwin's portrayal of Trump. The friend is a Republican who dislikes Trump and went for Johnson, but is now trying his best to hope Trump is better than he thought. Anyway. He noted (correctly,IMO) that part of what makes Kate McKinnon's Clinton portrayal so successful is her underlying sympathy with Clinton. Even as she mocks her, it's clear she understands and sympathizes with her, too. My friend opined (again, correctly, IMO) that Baldwin does not make any attempt to sympathize with his Trump character, and therefore, it is, in my friend's opinion, not a successful parody. I agreed with my friend that Baldwin doesn't attempt to sympathize, but added that I thought the parody was effective, and to be honest, I wouldn't be able to do any better since I can't find a damn thing I find sympathetic or endearing about Trump. I find him vulgar, shallow, bombastic, vindictive, dishonest, nasty, principle-less... heck, I don't even think he's a good family man. I've detested him for decades. I couldn't stand him when he was a Democrat hobnobbing with the Clintons. Always, I've thought him horrible. It's not so much about politics -- it's the man himself. So for me, Baldwin's impression is pretty dead-on. The best I could do was hope there's something better under the veneer, but I very much fear that it's like the shoddy sticker sheets Trump put over the appliances at Trump Grille to make them look like stainless steel -- what was under it might be worse. Why oh why can't I just nod and smile like a good social hypocrite?
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Post by robeiae on Dec 22, 2016 12:25:50 GMT -5
I find him vulgar, shallow, bombastic, vindictive, dishonest, nasty, principle-less... heck, I don't even think he's a good family man. I've detested him for decades. I couldn't stand him when he was a Democrat hobnobbing with the Clintons. Always, I've thought him horrible. It's not so much about politics -- it's the man himself. Agree 100%. He's as bad as Trump.
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