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Post by celawson on Feb 10, 2017 12:04:01 GMT -5
So, I'm off to work soon and can't write a very detailed post, but I'm very intrigued by the following: So the CEO of Under Armour which a pretty prominent athletic wear brand, made a positive comment or two about Trump. And now a few of UA's most well-known sponsored athletes are upset. This includes Steph Curry, Duane Johnson, Misty Copeland (a ballerina). So what was the horrible thing the CEO said? And I have to say I was a little shocked when I read Steph Curry's comment. To say that about our POTUS seems out of line with how the consistently polite Curry normally comports himself. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4210002/Johnson-Copeland-rap-Armour-CEO-s-Trump-stance.html#ixzz4YInVaiuX So is what the CEO said out of line? Is it understandable that these athletes are so upset? Or is it an example of the "bubble" we've talked about regarding Trump haters? Where they seem to forget that a good portion of the country supported him for POTUS, and that the CEO's comment was actually quite benign? Can Trump be praised for ANY aspect of his work as POTUS? Can we separate his actions, any of his actions, from the idea that he is despicable? What are your thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 12:12:19 GMT -5
The only thing Trump has done so far that I approve is appointing Gorsuch, who, taking the man on his own merits (i.e, taking aside the atrocious Merrick Garland mess, which is going to taint any appointment Trump makes) I think is a well-qualified pick. (And while I know many liberals are worried about him, I think those fears are overblown. At any rate, from a conservative president -- not just Trump, but any conservative president -- IMO Gorsuch is about the best liberals can hope for.)
I think the rest of this last two weeks have been an almost unbelievable fiasco.
And no, I have no problems with the athletes giving their opinions. Trump, as president, has an obligation to be diplomatic and presidential. Ditto judges and other public figures. (If you recall, I did not approve of the Notorious RBG's comments on Trump during the election, though I like her and agreed with the substance of her comments. As a Supreme Court Justice, though, I think she needs to be more circumspect about how she voices her personal opinions on such issues.) Athletes have no such obligation.
While I don't particularly care what athletes and movie stars think, at least any more than that of any other person, and sometimes those opinions might make me roll my eyes, I don't have a problem with them voicing it. It is their right. (In this case, obviously, I have some sympathy with the opinion in question.)
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Post by nighttimer on Feb 10, 2017 13:41:56 GMT -5
So, I'm off to work soon and can't write a very detailed post, but I'm very intrigued by the following: So the CEO of Under Armour which a pretty prominent athletic wear brand, made a positive comment or two about Trump. And now a few of UA's most well-known sponsored athletes are upset. This includes Steph Curry, Duane Johnson, Misty Copeland (a ballerina). So what was the horrible thing the CEO said? And I have to say I was a little shocked when I read Steph Curry's comment. To say that about our POTUS seems out of line with how the consistently polite Curry normally comports himself. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4210002/Johnson-Copeland-rap-Armour-CEO-s-Trump-stance.html#ixzz4YInVaiuX So is what the CEO said out of line? Is it understandable that these athletes are so upset? Or is it an example of the "bubble" we've talked about regarding Trump haters? Where they seem to forget that a good portion of the country supported him for POTUS, and that the CEO's comment was actually quite benign? Can Trump be praised for ANY aspect of his work as POTUS? Can we separate his actions, any of his actions, from the idea that he is despicable? What are your thoughts? I am part of the nearly 3 million strong that didn't support Trump for POTUS. Why should I defer to the "good portion of the country that supported him? There are some athletes who don't have a problem with the Under Armour CEO's remarks. Meet Kent Bazemore of the NBA's Atlanta Hawks.There you go. Diversity of opinion in the National Basketball Association. It doesn't mean Steph Curry is impolite because he's not a fan of the current president. Why would he be when he was a big fan of the former president?It doesn't make Steph Curry a "Trump hater" because he thinks Trump is an ass. He is an ass. His statements about women, Blacks, Mexicans, Muslims, people with disabilities and others has made him well worthy of the description. Can Trump be praised for ANY aspect of his work as president? Thus far, the answer is an unequivocal and unapologetic "HELL NO!" My password is "Notrump17#. That give you any clue of what I think of this creep? You want me to be kind to Trump? Ask him to be a president worthy of kindness. Right now, he's unworthy of anything but total contempt.
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Post by Amadan on Feb 10, 2017 14:13:39 GMT -5
I am totally fine with athletes, celebrities, whoever, expressing their opinion of Trump. But this is what the next four years is going to look like - you are on Team Trump or on Team Opposition, period. Expressing support or opposition (however tepidly) puts you on one side or the other in the culture wars, and that means shunning, blocking, and boycotts.
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Post by celawson on Feb 11, 2017 1:05:42 GMT -5
Thanks for the diversity of opinion from the NBA, ohio. Hopefully Bazemore won't be attacked for that opinion. I don't think Curry is impolite for not liking Trump. But I do think it just doesn't seem like him to call the POTUS an ass. Although as you say, Trump does bring it on himself. And Amadan - I am sort of thinking that an athlete who works for a company to promote a brand, should kind of stay under the radar politically. They are bound to turn around half of people off, if they take a strong political stance on something. It's like when an author is really loudly political on Twitter. I wonder why they'd risk turning possible customers off. And yeah, this time around it's not disagreement on any policy; it's hatred for the man and anything/everything he does/says.
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Post by Optimus on Feb 11, 2017 2:37:21 GMT -5
By the pussy?
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Post by Don on Feb 11, 2017 5:15:09 GMT -5
Or as we used to say in the old days, "by the short hairs."
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