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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 18:16:48 GMT -5
www.yahoo.com/style/twitter-users-found-this-glamour-shot-of-kellyanne-conway-in-a-velvet-cloak-202825047.html OK, it's an attractive picture of her. But who the hell keeps glamour shots of themselves in their living room?! Don't know about the rest of you, but the only pictures I've got of myself displayed around my home include other people. The only exception I can imagine making, off the top of my head, is something like a wedding portrait (were I married), or maybe a funny candid shot from a specific occasion with a good story behind it. But just a good picture of myself, to show how glam I am? Yeah, no. I actually do have some professional headshots that were taken a couple of years ago by a photographer friend, which I've used for professional purposes. They are nice pictures of me. But I wouldn't dream of framing them and putting them up in my home, because it's so....vain. Self-absorbed. Attention-seeking. Especially that one, IMO, because it's just so fake and cheesy. Apparently Twitter agrees with me. What do you all think?
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Post by poetinahat on Mar 15, 2017 18:34:37 GMT -5
I don't really get any enjoyment from poking fun at people's personal foibles, no matter how odious their actions are. That said, I don't imagine putting up glamour shots of myself in my home, but I do seem to be vain enough to take a relatively good photo of me and turn it into an avatar. So I've got no high ground either.
Still, if you squint, the photo could be Madonna as Norma Desmond... right?
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Post by maxinquaye on Mar 15, 2017 18:47:44 GMT -5
I actually do have a picture of myself in my living room. As an 19 year old strapping young man (so long ago) I was demobbed from the military, during the years Sweden had conscription. I was this incredibly handsome and repressed geeky gay in a cracking uniform. And that's what I have a picture of. No other people in the photo with me. Now, if only I could bench-press like that younger me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 18:58:34 GMT -5
Still, if you squint, the photo could be Madonna as Norma Desmond... right? Win. FWIW, I think using a photo of yourself as an avatar is quite different. I also use one, for twitter and LinkedIn. And there's nothing at all wrong with choosing a good one. And when I've had to choose a photo for professional work directories and such, I've certainly picked what I thought was a nice one. I also don't have a problem with people getting professional glamour shots of themselves as a gift to a significant other. I know a few women who did that for their husbands (in lingerie, etc.), and I think that's sweet. But I submit that framing a glamour shot of yourself in tons of makeup, dressed in a way you'd likely never dress in real life, and displaying it in your living room is in a whole 'nother category.
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Post by poetinahat on Mar 15, 2017 19:07:02 GMT -5
It's something I can't imagine for myself -- "honey, I got undressed in front of a stranger, just for you" -- but I can sure understand that other people would absolutely love it.
And where, then, does this photo rank on a scale of 1 to Ben Carson and Jesus?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 19:13:19 GMT -5
I actually do have a picture of myself in my living room. As an 19 year old strapping young man (so long ago) I was demobbed from the military, during the years Sweden had conscription. I was this incredibly handsome and repressed geeky gay in a cracking uniform. And that's what I have a picture of. No other people in the photo with me. Now, if only I could bench-press like that younger me. A photo in a military uniform actually fits under my special occasion exception, like the wedding photo. If I had a photo of myself in a military uniform, I'd probably display it, too. My ex, a major in the Marine Corp, had a framed photo of himself in his dress uniform. I thought that was OK. Though I had to giggle to myself when I looked at it because he looks like such a stuffy git. A handsome, brave, stuffy git, but a stuffy git nonetheless. (But of course I don't blame him a bit for being proud of his uniform and the Corp. He should be. It was just funny for me to see him with that stiff expression on his face -- he never looked like that around me.) It's something I can't imagine for myself -- "honey, I got undressed in front of a stranger, just for you" -- but I can sure understand that other people would absolutely love it. And where, then, does this photo rank on a scale of 1 to Ben Carson and Jesus? You know, I can't imagine doing it either. But they were good with it, and their husbands liked it, so that's what counts. I think you have a distinctly messianic look to you in that photo, so I'll vote Jesus.
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Post by robeiae on Mar 15, 2017 19:16:54 GMT -5
But I submit that framing a glamour shot of yourself in tons of makeup, dressed in a way you'd likely never dress in real life, and displaying it in your living room is in a whole 'nother category. I know a boatload of people--mostly women, but not all--in that category. It's an important aspect of their existence for a good number of them, in fact. Some because they were models or actors (sometimes successful, sometimes not so much), others for reasons unknown to me. Sorry, but jumping on this tidbit, criticizing it or mocking it in earnest on twitter, is pretty pathetic imo. It's just so forced and cruel, it's orders of magnitude worse than the memes on her sitting on the couch in the White House.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 19:20:03 GMT -5
But I submit that framing a glamour shot of yourself in tons of makeup, dressed in a way you'd likely never dress in real life, and displaying it in your living room is in a whole 'nother category. I know a boatload of people--mostly women, but not all--in that category. It's an important aspect of their existence for a good number of them, in fact. Some because they were models or actors (sometimes successful, sometimes not so much), others for reasons unknown to me. Sorry, but jumping on this tidbit, criticizing it or mocking it in earnest on twitter, is pretty pathetic imo. It's just so forced and cruel, it's orders of magnitude worse than the memes on her sitting on the couch in the White House. Pfft. Then cruel you must write me down. Maybe it's just my friends and relatives are freaks, but I don't know any women (or men) who have professional solo glamour shots in their living room. And I know a professional actress, who has many such shots (just not framed and in her living room). I know a few who have wedding, engagement, or graduation shots displayed, but I do think that's rather different -- it's a portrait marking an important life occasion. Ditto with a military photo. Ditto, of course, pictures with family and friends. ETA: If I had a really interesting artsy photo of myself (I don't), I might frame that. An actor boyfriend of mine used to have a black and white photo of himself up that was super cool. But I guess that's what made the difference for me -- the photo wasn't about "look how hot I am" -- it was about it being a really cool photo that happened to have him in it. Also true of photos taken with, say, the pyramids. I don't frame such photos of myself (actually, I very rarely take such photos except where I want myself in there for scale), but I can see why someone else would -- it's about "hey, look at this cool place I visited!" not "look how glamorous I am!" I dunno -- it just seems really vain to me to frame an 8x10 glossy heavily made-up glamour shot of just yourself and display it.
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Post by robeiae on Mar 15, 2017 19:29:37 GMT -5
It's also possible that there's a story behind the picture.
But as you will. I find this sort of mockery pretty bad, though. Really, I don't see how it's anything other than purposefully cruel for no other reason than to be cruel.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 19:53:23 GMT -5
I don't find it particularly cruel.
It is not making fun of her face, her body, or some sort of disability she has. (It is, in fact, an attractive photo of her, as I noted.) It's not making fun of anything she cannot help. It's making fun of her doing something that's IMO rather vain and therefore mildly ridiculous. It makes me think of Gilderoy Lockhart in Harry Potter, with the framed photos of himself in his office at Hogwarts.
Even if this particular photo were taken for an occasion, by the way, I'd find it more than a bit over the top, with that eye makeup, lipstick, and hooded fur coat.
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I also didn't think making fun of Conway with her feet on the couch was "cruel", by the way, though I did think it was made too big a deal out of.
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Post by Vince524 on Mar 15, 2017 19:56:40 GMT -5
The only pictures I have up with me in them are family or wedding pics, and those are few and far between. Mostly, we have the girls and now a few of the Sage kids and our kids. But they're all much better looking than I am anyway.
Having said that, I don't see the big deal. I don't feel like Cass is being cruel, but I would guess many on Twitter they are.
My guess, and I could be wrong here, but if I had to venture a guess into what possible justifiable reason she could have for having that picture displayed?
She likes it.
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Post by Christine on Mar 15, 2017 19:57:00 GMT -5
I think it's a cool picture. She looks pretty and kind of noir.
As a kid, I loved seeing pictures of my mom younger. I think my dad did, too. There were some beautiful pictures of her in photo albums. She didn't display them around the house, but if she had, I'd have looked at them.
I mean, if there was one in every room, that would seem vain, but one picture? Why is that vanity?
ETA: The above should not be taken to mean I don't think Kelly Anne Conway is a complete and utter twit, as evidenced by the words that come out of her mouth (as opposed to her family room decor).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 20:06:21 GMT -5
I think the picture is cheesy as all hell, but maybe that's just me.
I liked looking at pictures of my parents and grandparents young, too. I have my mother's and grandmothers' wedding pictures displayed, along with a slew of other relatives. No glam head shots, though.
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I should also note that I have the following prejudices:
-- I cannot bear Kellyanne Conway, and this plays right into my view of her as a self-absorbed, phony, vain twit. If I were to pick one member of Trump's gang I'd like to see go first, she'd be up there with Bannon for me.
-- I don't like the look of heavy makeup, at all.
-- There's something about being eager to have photos of yourself taken and displayed that I just don't get. Like, the whole selfie culture mystifies me. I have whole undocumented years where no pictures of me exist at all, to my knowledge. I usually return from trips with 1000 photos of the place and not one of me. I mean, I know what I look like, right? Usually, when I do have them, it's because someone insisted on taking it, and I didn't know how to get out of it without making a big deal. Or, like, for scale (I have one of me in front of the smallest house in Great Britain, just to show how tiny it is), or once in a while, to be silly (I particularly enjoy Halloween photos). I can't picture having a glamour shot of myself taken, much less framed and displayed.
So there you have it. I was predisposed to find this scoff-worthy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 20:39:52 GMT -5
Here, I put up my notion of a glamour shot for an avatar. Now you can make cruel fun of me.
(I chose it just for you, poetinahat -- it was taken in Australia, in the natural history museum in Sydney, in a back room with unused display items. I befriended one of the museum guides, who took that picture. Yes, it was likely quite against the rules.)
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Post by Christine on Mar 15, 2017 20:50:21 GMT -5
I like it! I like the Conway one too, even though I also don't like her (it probably helps that the pic barely looks like her) or makeup or "glamour shots" ever since my little sister did one around age 13 and I was like, THAT'S SO FAKE, GAAAH!!! Then again, my parents still have that pic and it looks sweet to me now. Twenty years can change one's perspective, I guess.
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