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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 13:40:01 GMT -5
"But [Obama, Hillary, GHWB, other person]. But Gorsuch. Both sides. Par for the course. No big deal. Who cares? History shmistory, facts, shmacts, allies, shmallies, experts, shmexperts. Actually they had it coming because [reason]. Burn it all down. If the libs are unhappy, it must be good. If conservatives are unhappy, they're Secret Dem Traitors. But wait, this one person here on this partisan website says it's fine. Fake Media. It's 80-dimensional chess. He's just inexperienced. No, YOU'RE biased. This one thing is bad but! Dems are forcing this to happen because they're just so mean! The grown-ups will prevent it! It can't actually be this bad because surely Someone would Do Something! Isn't Nancy Pelosi just awful! Oh, those SJWs! Her emails! No, not Ivanka's emails--those are different because! Look! SQUIRREL!" ETA:
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Post by prozyan on Dec 21, 2018 16:18:15 GMT -5
What happened in the past is irrelevant (though most of the US military pullouts have been stupid in the past). And I wouldn't have much of a problem if the US had not gotten involved in Syria to start. But we kinda did.
Bigly. And now we decide to take our ball and go home with pretty much no warning. It is S T U P I D.
I believe that region, which is already pretty rough, will literally be Hell on Earth within a year.
All this isn't even mentioning that any replacement with any bare minimum of qualifications is going to be someone that has the same view as Mattis. Leaving Syria at this time is pretty much universally seen as wrong from anyone who isn't a Trump sycophant. So we're going to end up with an unqualified yes man. The best people, for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 16:46:34 GMT -5
What happened in the past is irrelevant (though most of the US military pullouts have been stupid in the past). And I wouldn't have much of a problem if the US had not gotten involved in Syria to start. But we kinda did. Bigly. And now we decide to take our ball and go home with pretty much no warning. It is S T U P I D. I believe that region, which is already pretty rough, will literally be Hell on Earth within a year. All this isn't even mentioning that any replacement with any bare minimum of qualifications is going to be someone that has the same view as Mattis. Leaving Syria at this time is pretty much universally seen as wrong from anyone who isn't a Trump sycophant. So we're going to end up with an unqualified yes man. The best people, for sure. So much winning.
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Post by mikey on Dec 21, 2018 17:40:05 GMT -5
What happened in the past is irrelevant (though most of the US military pullouts have been stupid in the past). And I wouldn't have much of a problem if the US had not gotten involved in Syria to start. But we kinda did. Bigly. And now we decide to take our ball and go home with pretty much no warning. It is S T U P I D. I believe that region, which is already pretty rough, will literally be Hell on Earth within a year. All this isn't even mentioning that any replacement with any bare minimum of qualifications is going to be someone that has the same view as Mattis. Leaving Syria at this time is pretty much universally seen as wrong from anyone who isn't a Trump sycophant. So we're going to end up with an unqualified yes man. The best people, for sure. Pretty much the only person who thinks the past is "irrelevant" is Charley Brown. (Think Lucy and the football).
I totally agree with you that the region will be hell on earth in a short time, the same as many other places on the planet. I think we need to remember though that this is the kind of shit Trump campaigned on. Now he is just fulfilling his promises to his voters. And no, I don't think all this is stupid, I think all this is Friday.
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Post by haggis on Dec 21, 2018 17:40:21 GMT -5
"But [Obama, Hillary, GHWB, other person]. But Gorsuch. Both sides. Par for the course. No big deal. Who cares? History shmistory, facts, shmacts, allies, shmallies, experts, shmexperts. Actually they had it coming because [reason]. Burn it all down. If the libs are unhappy, it must be good. If conservatives are unhappy, they're Secret Dem Traitors. But wait, this one person here on this partisan website says it's fine. Fake Media. It's 80-dimensional chess. He's just inexperienced. No, YOU'RE biased. This one thing is bad but! Dems are forcing this to happen because they're just so mean! The grown-ups will prevent it! It can't actually be this bad because surely Someone would Do Something! Isn't Nancy Pelosi just awful! Oh, those SJWs! Her emails! No, not Ivanka's emails--those are different because! Look! SQUIRREL!" ETA: You had to bring Little Rocket Man into this, didn't you?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 18:00:14 GMT -5
You had to bring Little Rocket Man into this, didn't you? It's my way, Haggis.
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Post by haggis on Dec 21, 2018 18:05:29 GMT -5
You had to bring Little Rocket Man into this, didn't you? It's my way, Haggis. You've been hanging around Angie and her explosives too long.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 18:08:33 GMT -5
"But [Obama, Hillary, GHWB, other person]. But Gorsuch. Both sides. Par for the course. No big deal. Who cares? History shmistory, facts, shmacts, allies, shmallies, experts, shmexperts. Actually they had it coming because [reason]. Burn it all down. If the libs are unhappy, it must be good. If conservatives are unhappy, they're Secret Dem Traitors. But wait, this one person here on this partisan website says it's fine. Fake Media. It's 80-dimensional chess. He's just inexperienced. No, YOU'RE biased. This one thing is bad but! Dems are forcing this to happen because they're just so mean! The grown-ups will prevent it! It can't actually be this bad because surely Someone would Do Something! Isn't Nancy Pelosi just awful! Oh, those SJWs! Her emails! No, not Ivanka's emails--those are different because! Look! SQUIRREL!" ETA: ETA: Look, lots of places are hellholes, so what's another. Hey, he's just living up to his campaign promises. This is what the working class voters in Michigan and Pennsylvania wanted. It's all the Democrats' fault for not giving him Wall money. He's just punching back. Just because he has six bankruptcies and a slew of failed businesses and had to shut down his corrupt foundation and the economists are all screaming doesn't mean his economic policies won't work out. It's all fine because he hires the best people! Pfft, we don't need those people he fired--they suck. It's totally a coincidence that Putin wanted this to happen, just like all the Trump campaign's contacts with Russian agents and the plan to build Trump Tower Moscow and the fact he and his aides lied about all that were all just coincidences. No Collusion! He's totally buddies with Kim Jong Un--he's the great negotiator and he totally got him to de-nuke with a smile and a handshake! He's getting tough with Kim Jong Un--about time a president did that! And you are FORCING me to support Trump because you're just so dang mean and why can't you just give him a chance to see what he can accomplish?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2018 12:03:30 GMT -5
(Click on tweet for the full thread.)
Meh, just another closet lib trying to undermine Trump.
I forget--who are the grownups that are going to prevent the Toddler-in-Chief from doing anything really disastrous?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2018 12:35:29 GMT -5
Yeah, Mattis is just a peevish neo-lib, right? Quitting at the drop of a hat over the smallest little thing. Or wait, scratch that. He just wanted to retire and enjoy his grandkids! That's it! Okay, maybe he might not totally see eye-to-eye with Trump on the Syria withdrawal, but that's just one tiny little issue, right? It's not like he has any truly fundamental problems with Trump. It's not like he was trying to send a message. www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/12/trump-administration-after-mattis/578890/
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Post by mikey on Dec 22, 2018 12:45:55 GMT -5
Good residence! The more war-hawks who resign (regardless of their reason) the better off the US and nations in her cross hairs will be.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2018 12:52:34 GMT -5
Oh, so you think Trump Unleashed is going to keep us out of conflicts, do you?
LOL.
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You probably also think that an America without allies and global influence, that just keeps to itself, will be stronger.
I'll bet you aren't much of a history buff.
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Post by mikey on Dec 22, 2018 12:56:48 GMT -5
I didn't think Obama would get us in so much shit, turns out I couldn't have been more wrong, ((shrug)). We'll see
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2018 12:59:06 GMT -5
But Obama. But Hillary.
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Post by mikey on Dec 22, 2018 13:07:08 GMT -5
But history
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