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Post by maxinquaye on Aug 12, 2017 15:02:47 GMT -5
If you look at a map, you'll realise why attacking North Korea with nukes is insane. First, the fallout not only threatens major population centres in China, Russia, South Korea and Japan, it also devastates an area of high strategic importance for all the major powers. If you want to go to war with Russia, China, the Koreas, and possibly even Japan then go ahead.
Japan will, though, likely do what we in the EU will do. We'll stay out of it, and abandon any idea that you're a sane and rational power that can be trusted. The USA will be solely and fully responsible for a Korean genocide that will rival what the Nazis did. Millions will die. Tens of millions. Not a single ally will side with you in this, because attacking North Korea is insane.
India will probably turn belligerent because they'll be down-wind from the Koreas. And they're going to worry a lot about a China that will be on a war footing. They're not going to be pleased that you started this shit, and they'll ready their own nukes and point them in every direction.
Australia will be down-wind too. Their major markets will be turned to glass, and their populations will blame the USA. If you want to set Asia on fire, you'll do this. We'll do our best over here to make sure the fire does not spread to our part of the world. But all bets are off about Eastern Europe, after Vladivostok starts to live under a toxic radioactive cloud. If, as seems likely, things turn sour, we'll blame you. And we won't come help in Asia.
There's a reason North Korea still exists. China is a rational actor. It's not a very nice actor, and it's fully prepared to let millions of Koreans suffer under the yoke of the North Korean dictatorship. But, China is rational, and North Korea exists because it's a buffer against the capitalist South Korea that could otherwise 'infect' large parts of northern China. As long as the buffer is useful, China will support North Korea. But the threat of 'capitalist infection' is preferable to nuclear fallout. Nuclear fallout tend to make populations antsy.
Last Edit: Aug 12, 2017 15:04:32 GMT -5 by maxinquaye
China announced a ban on imports of iron ore, iron, lead and coal from North Korea on Monday, cutting an important economic lifeline for the Pyongyang regime, as it moved to implement a package of sanctions put together by the United Nations Security Council.
The ban will take effect from Tuesday, the Ministry of Commerce announced.
Like I said above, China wants a buffer zone between its Northern provinces and capitalist South Korea, and North Korea is it. The government there is perfectly happy to keep millions of Koreans under the "leadership" of the Pyongyang regime because of this. That's not nice, but the Chinese government is not very nice, is it?
So, for them to do this is very interesting. Maybe China has finally come to the conclusion that whilst the buffer zone is a good thing to have, the actions of the Pyongyang regime is now so threatening that it will take steps to openly oppose it.
"There are ways to address this problem short of armed conflict, but it is a race because he's getting closer and closer, and there's not much time left," McMaster said, referring to North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
Last Edit: Dec 4, 2017 19:12:41 GMT -5 by poetinahat