DACA Shame

Yeah. I read it. I've told you where you're missing the mark, but let me try again.

You're comparing a 100% employment rate among H-1B holders with the currently 17% of DACA recipients in an advanced degree program. Those are not the same thing - and the article specifically states that it mentions the H-1B holders BECAUSE DACA recipients, once they've reached the same age bracket, will be comparable in terms of both education and employment. So your point is largely moot. I think you've missed the last line of this paragraph, which explains WHY they're using H-1B holders for the comparison:


The economic hit comes from the loss of skilled, educated people in the workforce, along with the huge chunk of change it's going to cost to deport 750,000 people.

I think the article did a pretty good job of breaking down where their numbers came from. Maybe don't accuse me of not reading when it's you who hasn't made a good argument against their findings.

Just to be clear, 17% of 750,000 comes to about 127,500.
H-1B holders = 660,000

I guess I just don't see how 127,500 students would cause a " quarter-trillion hit to the economy", without taking into account the cost of deportation.


It seems to me Angie, that you are implying that the loss of highly educated DACA students who gain jobs someday in their fields of expertise, means that those jobs are lost forever, regardless who else may be qualified to do them?

I think that the jobs will still be there, that part of the economic picture I mean, just that someone else will fill them.

75% of all percentages are made up on the spot, and the other 45% is easily challenged.

Man, that's some really nice cherry-picking. Let's see the rest of the story, shall we?



That third sentence says a lot, IMO. Also, what's the percentage of gen pop, or even non-DACA 22-yr-olds, that are on track for an advanced degree? In either case, I bet "amazingly" is a more appropriate term than the derisive "only" that you used.

And how's your advanced degree coming along?

Haggis,
It's very possible that I do have a problem understanding 17% of 750,000. If the answer is different than 127,500, then I apologize for my error.

My opinion of an opinion ought to be as valid of an opinion as anyone's opinion I would guess.

Not trying to change the world, just disagreeing with the articles conclusion. YMMV

I agree with you Don, it's amazing. And I would like to see the percentage rates of the gen pop.
As far as my "derisive only" comment, that has to do with the fact that I don't believe that "only" 127,500 students would cost the USA "three quarters of a trillion".

I think you know how my advanced degree is coming.

I was speaking of this statement of yours.

"Also, the article goes on to tell us that only 17% of DACA recipients are on track to complete an advanced degree. Nothing great that I can see."

Nothing great? Non-natives, most speaking a non-native language, earning 50% more advanced degrees than gen pop? What do you call it, then?