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Post by Vince524 on Feb 9, 2018 12:57:19 GMT -5
At least according to a professor at Southern New Hampshire University.
I hate Buzzfeed and the way they have this article laid out, but I'll do my best to condense.
A stay at home mom got an F because her professor didn't know and couldn't Google the fact that Australia is a country.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 13:06:20 GMT -5
The Idiocracy. We are there.
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Post by Don on Feb 9, 2018 14:26:56 GMT -5
On the positive side, it sounds like SNHU took care of the issue in short order. I wonder if replaced is a euphemism for fired, or if they just gave her a comprehensive intelligence exam before subjecting more students to her wisdom.
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Post by Vince524 on Feb 9, 2018 14:36:14 GMT -5
The question is, did they fire her? Or just take her out of this class? I mean, a quick google was all it took.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 14:57:15 GMT -5
It's just disturbing as hell to me that any adult, much less a professor, doesn't know that Australia is both a country and a continent. Sorry to be a snob, but that's very basic knowledge that one should pick up in grade school geography.
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Post by michaelw on Feb 9, 2018 17:51:42 GMT -5
It's just disturbing as hell to me that any adult, much less a professor, doesn't know that Australia is both a country and a continent. Sorry to be a snob, but that's very basic knowledge that one should pick up in grade school geography. Agree (although I don't think it makes you a snob). Truth is, geographical illiteracy is a big thing in the US. According to this, only about 16 percent of Americans were able to locate Ukraine on a map. And check out this video of Americans trying to find North Korea on a map. (In the linked infographic from the NYT, about 36 percent were able to find NK, so at least it's better than Ukraine.) Personally, I find it downright absurd that we could actually go to war w/ a country, thinking mistakenly that that country is right on our fucking border. (And I wonder if Trump could find North Korea on a map. Or Slovenia, for that matter.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 18:22:34 GMT -5
It's just disturbing as hell to me that any adult, much less a professor, doesn't know that Australia is both a country and a continent. Sorry to be a snob, but that's very basic knowledge that one should pick up in grade school geography. Agree (although I don't think it makes you a snob). Truth is, geographical illiteracy is a big thing in the US. According to this, only about 16 percent of Americans were able to locate Ukraine on a map. And check out this video of Americans trying to find North Korea on a map. (In the linked infographic from the NYT, about 36 percent were able to find NK, so at least it's better than Ukraine.) Personally, I find it downright absurd that we could actually go to war w/ a country, thinking mistakenly that that country is right on our fucking border. (And I wonder if Trump could find North Korea on a map. Or Slovenia, for that matter.) What have schools been teaching this last several decades, anyway? People can't do basic math, they don't know the difference between there, they're, and their, they don't know Australia is a country, and they think North Korea is in North America. *shakes cane* (But that said, I'm a product of public schools, I didn't have any special tutors or anything -- so why the hell did I learn all this shit, and so many other people didn't? My nieces (all in public schools) appear to be getting a very solid education -- they're quick with math, they're all good spellers and readers, even the youngest (now 10) knows the difference between there, they're and their. I'll bet they all know Australia is a country. It seems some schools are doing okay and some aren't. We should do something about this.)
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Post by Vince524 on Feb 9, 2018 18:55:04 GMT -5
Colleges are teaching more and more social justice and less actual knowledge. A lot of young men are choosing trade school.
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Post by prozyan on Feb 9, 2018 19:02:12 GMT -5
What have schools been teaching this last several decades, anyway? People can't do basic math, they don't know the difference between there, they're, and their, they don't know Australia is a country, and they think North Korea is in North America. Education worked much better before DC panicked over a few rigged "world ranking" indexes and tried to fix it.
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Post by Christine on Feb 9, 2018 22:37:05 GMT -5
I read the thread title and wondered if I had been mis-taught. My doubt of all things has apparently overcome the certain knowledge of any thing.
*rends clothes*
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Post by Christine on Feb 9, 2018 23:09:18 GMT -5
What have schools been teaching this last several decades, anyway? People can't do basic math, they don't know the difference between there, they're, and their, they don't know Australia is a country, and they think North Korea is in North America. Education worked much better before DC panicked over a few rigged "world ranking" indexes and tried to fix it. This is a lazy excuse, assuming you're not joking. (If you're joking, please disregard.) Of course, Don approves, because FedGov is Evil. *eyeroll* My kids' public education has been similar to what Cass described in regard to her nieces/nephews. It has been superb. I mean, really superb. Three things, though, to be fair: (1) I'm active in monitoring homework, grades, etc., (2) we live in a very wealthy area and the schools are A-rated every year, and (3) my kids excelled from early on, due in part to both (1) and (2), and so were often placed in advanced classes. I think both funding and parent participation are key factors. All that to say I don't see "DC" as mucking it up. Maybe their efforts have not helped, by and large, but to claim it all "worked much better" beforehand? Meh.
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Post by Vince524 on Feb 9, 2018 23:37:24 GMT -5
Public schools often supply really great educations, and often really sucky ones. My daughter's high school had a lot of great teachers, but there was one who they didn't have that was known to fall asleep at his desk and the kids would wonder if he died. He was never fired because tenor. Also daughter #1 is having some issues in her calculus/trigonometry class that builds on stuff she learned in high school, but it was a teacher who pretty much let them teach themselves.
As an aside, we just had a late night trauma session as my daughter, who works very hard for her grades, was very upset over a 70 she got. The teacher has a policy of dropping the lowest grade, but the class is just so hard and my daughter really was worried she was going to lose her perfect 4.0 average. We were on with her for a few hours, calming her down, telling her to start by going to the professor and asking if there was more help she could get.
Found out last night the professor was glad she came, as she hadn't realized she put in the wrong grade for her. My daughter actually got a 100 on the quiz.
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Post by Optimus on Feb 10, 2018 6:25:21 GMT -5
What have schools been teaching this last several decades, anyway? People can't do basic math, they don't know the difference between there, they're, and their, they don't know Australia is a country, and they think North Korea is in North America. Education worked much better before DC panicked over a few rigged "world ranking" indexes and tried to fix it. The success or failure of Public school education has very little to do with DC and everything to do with state and local politics. If you live in a poorly funded and/or poorly run local school district, that’s the local government’s fault. School boards are often run by under-educated dipshits (and teachers unions) with political and religious agendas, few of which seem to be concerned with actually providing a great education to the students.
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Post by Don on Feb 10, 2018 8:20:05 GMT -5
The public "education" system is working almost precisely as intended. The confusion is that most people believe the stated goals of the system and don't understand precisely what it was intended to accomplish. The problem is that the system is still producing production line drones obedient to authority, process and routine in an era when production line drones have less and less real value, and innovation and flexibility is called for. Students are being prepared for a mid-twentieth-century society that no longer exists.
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Post by Optimus on Feb 12, 2018 7:33:07 GMT -5
The question is, did they fire her? Or just take her out of this class? I mean, a quick google was all it took. From the articles I've read, it sounds like maybe this was an online course? I can't be sure, but that's the way it reads to me. If that's the case, then replacing the instructor is really simple, as there's no actual classroom to worry about (other than the "virtual classroom"). SNHU is a relatively tiny school (only about 3000 students on campus) but they apparently have a huge online enrollment. They claim to be non-profit, but schools that rely mostly on online course enrollment for their tuition revenue strike me as very shady, and very close to the practices of those for-profit scam colleges. I'd never even heard of SNHU until about a year ago when their commercials were spammed all over my late-night TV shows. It's an automatic red flag that a school is likely shitty when it uses commercial ads to recruit for their online courses in states that are 1200 miles away.
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