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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 21:36:34 GMT -5
Thirty-seven seats have flipped from red to blue so far, but this one is astonishing.
That's a yuuuuuge swing from red to blue in one year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 21:39:41 GMT -5
I mean, was she running against Satan or something? Is there some factor other that voter revolt against Republicans to explain this?
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Post by Optimus on Feb 20, 2018 21:56:32 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 22:08:41 GMT -5
Or, as in this case, the opponent is the wife of someone who was involved in a sex scandal. And this is, needless to say, a much bigger margin than Doug got over Roy.
But, yeah, a win is a win.
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Post by robeiae on Feb 21, 2018 8:14:02 GMT -5
It's almost like a midterm election with an unpopular President! There better be a "blue wave." I expect another 2010, or close to it. In these circumstances, anything less would be a failure, mostly of Dem leadership.
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Post by prozyan on Feb 21, 2018 9:45:01 GMT -5
It's almost like a midterm election with an unpopular President! There better be a "blue wave." I expect another 2010, or close to it. In these circumstances, anything less would be a failure, mostly of Dem leadership. I agree. If the Dems cannot make major gains in this climate....wow.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 9:59:51 GMT -5
I agree that's what should happen.
I suppose I fear that this time it won't because I think it matters so much to get some kind of check on Trump.
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Post by nighttimer on Feb 21, 2018 10:10:31 GMT -5
Blue wave? Meh. A true blue wave would wash Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan into the Tidal Basin and the Republicans out of the majority. Somehow, I just don't think Robert Mercer, Sheldon Adelson and the Koch Brothers are just gonna sit back and allow that to happen. Not without throwing millions of dollars into the fight. Plus, don't underestimate the ability of the tax cuts to staunch the bleeding and dam up the blue wave. Trump's astronomically poll numbers are trending upward and he may not be as much of a drag on GOP candidates in November that he is in February. Oh, and the Republican National Committee is kicking the Democratic National Committee's ass when it comes to fundraising and it ain't even close. Never underestimate the ability of the Democrats to spin gold into cow chips. History and political headwinds are on the side of the Dems going into the 2018 elections, but if we know anything about politics, headwinds can shift and Trump has defied history more than once. Don't count the money until its in your hand.
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Post by Optimus on Feb 21, 2018 14:22:18 GMT -5
I hope there is a bit of a blue tidal wave but I also have very little faith in the DNC leadership to put together any kind of coherent message that the party can rally behind. The Repubs often run horrible people with destructive policy positions, but the RNC runs like a well-oiled machine even down to the local level. Unfortunately, the same can't be said for the DNC and they're going to need a much better message than simply "Trump sucks" to run on. It seems that several of the dem candidates are succeeding individually on a local level with platforms built on unity, but that approach hasn't bubbled up to the national level yet, at least not that I've seen.
I'd also like to see someone like Gavin Newsom elevated for a potential run in 2020.
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Post by nighttimer on Feb 21, 2018 21:43:56 GMT -5
I hope there is a bit of a blue tidal wave but I also have very little faith in the DNC leadership to put together any kind of coherent message that the party can rally behind. The Repubs often run horrible people with destructive policy positions, but the RNC runs like a well-oiled machine even down to the local level. Unfortunately, the same can't be said for the DNC and they're going to need a much better message than simply "Trump sucks" to run on. It seems that several of the dem candidates are succeeding individually on a local level with platforms built on unity, but that approach hasn't bubbled up to the national level yet, at least not that I've seen. Well, let's not make the Repubs sound like a completely unstoppable force. They are running into a bit of an enthusiasm gap when it comes to fielding top-notch candidates to challenge Democratic Senate incumbents even in states Trump won convincingly and surge to the exits by the numerous and sudden retirements from the House. Make no mistake of it: even with an improving economy ( for the few not the many) and a tax cut to brag on ( to benefit a few not the many), this remains not at all a good year to be a Republican incumbent or aspirant for higher office. Frankly, a sizeable segment of the American populace hates your stinkin' guts and can't wait to go to the polls and vote against anyone with an "(R)" "beside their name. Yet, I believe the Republicans will hold onto their majorities in the House and Senate and set them up to repeat the feat in 2020. Why?
Because the Democrats are hoping the enthusiasm they think they have in their favor will build and crest into a stirring victory in November. Doubt it. Because while the energy is behind the Dems the money is behind the Repubs. The Left thinks historical lows in popularity in 2018 means Trump is Toast in 2020.Doubt it. Because the incumbent usually wins.My father used to say "bad music will drive out good." The proof of that is see how long it takes you in sheer despair, desperation or disgust to punch the "Scan" feature while cruising through the FM radio stations. This applies to politics. Bad politics have driven out good politics and BOTH parties are culpable, but then again, third parties have been completely and utterly impotent in offering a viable option, so they have nothing to chortle about. If you don't like a first-term Donald Trump how much are you gonna just love a second-term Donald Trump. Don't laugh and don't cry. Despite whatever foul dirt Bob Mueller finds under Clan Trump's fingernails, are you stupid enough to believe Motherfucking Mitch McConnell and Motherfucking Paul Ryan and the Motherfucking Republican Party are gonna turn on Donald Trump? Dream on. Dream until your dream comes true. America's been served up a great big ol' stinkin' shit sandwich and we're all gonna have to take a bite from it. A bite. Not a nibble. Pardon my skepticism, but it's impossible to trust a political system broken enough to give the goddamn nuclear codes to a proudly ignorant, narcissistic racist, pornstar-bangin' xenophobe who grabs wimmens by the kitty cat, fantasizes about banging his own daughter, and hires Russian hoes to pee on a bed Obama slept on has suddenly come to its senses, seen the error of their evil ways, and will now cast out President Pussygrabber. Doubt it.
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Post by Optimus on Feb 21, 2018 21:58:45 GMT -5
I pretty much agree with you there. I want to hope for the best but I just don't have much faith in the DNC to get their shit together in time for the midterms or 2020. I often think they hurt Dem candidates more than they help them.
The DNC is so bad at polishing diamonds they make them shine like turds, while the RNC is so good at polishing turds they make them shine like diamonds (in terms of election results).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 22:25:09 GMT -5
Why can't you people let me be happy?
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Post by robeiae on Jun 25, 2018 9:47:55 GMT -5
In the wake of the rolling immigration-related shit-storm: Battle for the Senate: www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/2018_elections_senate_map.htmlRight now, RCP sees eight toss-ups, with the Repubs needing three to hold onto the Senate. For point of info, Bill Nelson is in a life or death struggle with Rick Scott in Fla., even though Nelson looked to be a safe bet several months ago. I'm thinking the race will swing back to Nelson. But I'm also thinking that this race is critical for the Dems, as it was once taken as a given in their calculations and now may require more attention/funding. Battle for the House: www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/house/2018_elections_house_map.htmlTough to really get a handle on the toss-ups here. The Dems need 21 of 34 of those seats to flip the House, but that looks eminently doable. The fly in the batter might be Minnesota and the two Dem seats there that are in the toss-up column. Still, I think the odds are in the Dems favor over all, when it comes to the House.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2018 10:18:24 GMT -5
Dems need to stop quarreling with themselves, and they need to be actively seeking to attract--or at least not repel-- independents and NeverTrump conservatives.* Eyes on the prize.
*I don't mean trying to woo Trump supporters. That's a total waste of time. And I don't mean spitting on the interests of people of color or LBGT people, etc. I just mean gearing campaigns to put a special spotlight on "look, we need to get a check on the dude in the White House who doesn't give a shit about due process, is instituting tariffs that will kill American business, is alienating our allies, and is cuddling up to dangerous dictators. This is about fundamental American values. We need a Congress that acts like a co-equal branch. And it's pretty clear the GOP isn't gonna do that right now, unless we show them in the voting booths that it's what America wants."
Generally speaking, there seems to be very broad agreement on that stuff in America -- just not those still supporting Trump. Focus on it, and I think we get a blue wave.
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Post by robeiae on Aug 21, 2018 8:07:09 GMT -5
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