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Post by nighttimer on Mar 27, 2019 13:19:46 GMT -5
She sure nailed it with the last couple sentences. That all u got?
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Post by robeiae on Mar 31, 2019 8:38:29 GMT -5
Don't know much about history...
Actually, I don't find her flubbing up a basic historical fact to be all that big of a deal. She's far from alone in this regard, when it comes to politicians.
But what I do find kinda of troubling is the sense of what she's saying, because it seems like she's down with the ol' "benevolent dictator" idea. Maybe simple youthful idealism?
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Post by Don on Mar 31, 2019 9:25:31 GMT -5
Well, a war-footing economy doesn't allow much room for personal choice, so a stronger central authority than what we have today is a requirement. Not to mention what happens when the "war board" starts dismantling industries and re-assigning jobs. That's a role for Marlon Brando, not Kevin Kline.
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Post by nighttimer on Apr 1, 2019 13:49:57 GMT -5
Don't know much about history... Actually, I don't find her flubbing up a basic historical fact to be all that big of a deal. Yet here you are. Making a big deal of something you claim not to be all that big of a deal.
It speaks volumes on how obsessed the Right is with everything AOC says or does, that if she misspeaks some reporter/stalker will glom onto it and slap it online to feed the greedy needs of middle-aged conservative geeks desperately searching for their next Ocasio-Cortez fix. I sure hope she never picks her nose or goes to the beach in a bikini. She'll break the whole damn internet. Maybe. More likely it's your own old cynicism.
Here's something that actually is a big deal. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has introduced a new rule to punish any consultant working with challengers to incumbent Democrats. It's an incumbent protection policy pretty much a thinly veiled attempt to prevent any future Rashida Talib, Ayanna Pressey, Ilhan Omar and AOC's from emerging and knocking off a Joe Crowley.
I haven't given a nickle to any politician since last year and I'm not about to start now until I get in the election groove. April 2019 is too damn early, so keep your appeals for money away from my phone and email, DCCC. As long as this b.s. rule is in place, my cash will be going to individual campaigns, Act Blue or Emily's List and avoid the party fund-raising machine. There comes a time when the old bulls need to get the fuck off the stage and what the DCCC is up to runs counter to that.
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Post by Don on Apr 1, 2019 20:29:30 GMT -5
That DCCC thing would make a good thread in itself, but it may get lost here.
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Post by robeiae on Apr 2, 2019 8:26:51 GMT -5
Yet here you are. Making a big deal of something you claim not to be all that big of a deal. By posting about it where it might possibly be seen by six people? That's what you think qualifies as "making a big deal" out of something? Lol. As was the case in the Smollett thread, you assume a simple post/comment about something automatically means a great deal more--with regard to interest, caring, angst, or what have you--to someone than it might actually mean. You--by your own standard--are obviously so deeply in love (lust?) with Occasio-Cortez that you cannot let a comment about her go by without defending her honor. Very gallant. This is stuff in the news. Some things are more interesting to talk about than other things (which of course varies from person to person and is evidenced by all my thread starts that received zero replies). That's it. There isn't any more.
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Post by nighttimer on Apr 2, 2019 12:22:03 GMT -5
Yet here you are. Making a big deal of something you claim not to be all that big of a deal. By posting about it where it might possibly be seen by six people? That's what you think qualifies as "making a big deal" out of something? Lol. As was the case in the Smollett thread, you assume a simple post/comment about something automatically means a great deal more--with regard to interest, caring, angst, or what have you--to someone than it might actually mean. It has been my experience, much can be revealed by what is concealed. Your persistent need to bang on Ocasio-Cortez for misspeaking or a gaffe speaks volumes. What you pass off as blase indifference is belied by your demonstrated antagonism toward AOC's politics, her positions, and her intelligence.
Not at all. Gallant has nothing to do with this. When I see a woman of color being attacked on all sides by a gaggle of White guys, it is natural for me to side with the party under siege instead of the side putting them under siege.
Ride with Trump, McConnell, Hannity, Carlson and all those sorry motherfuckers or with Ocasio-Cortez? This is a choice? Is this supposed to be a tough call?.
While your president and his idiot sonny boy lead chants of "AOC Sucks!" the target of their scorn is instructing her fans to show respect for a Republican speaker at a Green New Deal event. That's the difference between whipping up fear and scorn for the other side and pleading for civility and respect for the opposing viewpoint. Trump's success is based upon whomever he demonizes. Ocasio-Cortez's success is based upon a sincere desire to build a better world.
I'm not gallant. I'm over playing games. It's time to smack down the haters and the bullies and the bigots and all those weak-minded chickenshits who enable and empower them. The system h has not failed. It was never designed to work for people who look like me or AOC in the first damn place. Whatever it takes I'm here for it.
I am truly madly deeply in love with anyone who pisses off the status quo. In general, the world needs more "creative extremists" than it does cowed conformists. AOC is what MLK had in mind. Stir the pot. Give it to 'em raw and unfiltered. Make it plain. Shake shit up. So yeah, I'm dickridin' AOC. Which ain't the same thing as trying to fuck AOC. She's on the right side of history and you, and guys like you, are on the wrong side.
Uh-huh. Sure thing. You keep tellin' yourself that. This thread has 380 replies and over 5000 views. All this for a first -term Congresscritter with no special power or position?
Don't try to bullshit a bullshitter. That never ends well.
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Post by robeiae on Apr 2, 2019 18:33:07 GMT -5
Not at all. Gallant has nothing to do with this. When I see a woman of color being attacked on all sides by a gaggle of White guys, it is natural for me to side with the party under siege instead of the side putting them under siege. Like I said, gallant (albeit a gallantry limited by race).
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Post by nighttimer on Apr 2, 2019 21:10:19 GMT -5
Like I said, gallant (albeit a gallantry limited by race). Your poor reading comprehension skills are your problem and if one-liners are all you got it's not the only one.
What's funny is how much you obsess over race when it suits you to do so. Then again, nothing seems to offend you more than finding out you're not the expert on everything.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 21:17:30 GMT -5
derail from argument simply because I must share this, and this is the go-to AOC thread/
Same.
/end derail
Carry on.
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Post by markesq on Apr 3, 2019 8:13:25 GMT -5
I am quite certain there are many, many people who would enjoy that immensely.
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Post by robeiae on Apr 3, 2019 8:14:59 GMT -5
Great, now I'm not going to get anything done today...
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Post by nighttimer on Apr 3, 2019 9:47:59 GMT -5
derail from argument simply because I must share this, and this is the go-to AOC thread/ Same. /end derail Carry on. Sigh. Sometimes...I...just..can't. This board needs a facepalm emoji in the worst way. Since I've already been accused of lusting for AOC because...reasons....anything I might say is probably subject to being reduced down to nothing but my racial obsession, but fuck it.
Gonna go out on a limb here and guess there are heterosexual men out there who find 29-year-old Latinas who look like AOC not to hard on the eyes. Joe Biden would probably smell her hair. Donald Trump would start flexing his stubby fingers to cop a quick feel. Most other dudes would probably keep their hands to themselves and just enjoy the view.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 10:13:22 GMT -5
I'm definitely in "I can't even" territory.
WTF, the degree to which the creator of that cartoon is fetishizing and drooling over AOC is just way over the fucking top, and yet at the same time he is trying to trash her politically and demean her as a human. The more I look at it, the more WTF I get.
I laughed at the "my mind is broken" tweet, but I'm also all what the holy fuck, get past the superficial absurdity and what the cartoonist dude (you know it's a dude) is doing is really just not fucking funny.
Anyway. You see why I needed to share it.
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Post by robeiae on Apr 3, 2019 13:00:23 GMT -5
Feet don't have a race. Just sayin'...
Regardless, I'd note that the most outspoken Donald Trump critics--who also happen to be male--seem to be quite adept at googling up nekid pictures of the First Lady (I don't want to know what they're doing with those pictures in their moms' basements), while others openly gawk at her.
The below, from Nighttimer, is incorrect:
Fact of the matter is that this is true in general, for an awful lot of people (not all of them men, either).
But men in politics get judged on how they look, too. Certainly not to the extent that women do, however. But I remember a fair amount of swooning over Obama's looks, especially when the shirtless pic of him was getting tossed around on social media.
I'm of the opinion that this whole "leap to the defense of O-C because she's a woman (or a woman of color)" is patently misogynistic as a matter of course. Ocasio-Cortez is an adult and an elected representative. She owns what she says publicly, same as any other pol or celebrity. So it's fair to criticize what she says (while it's not fair to criticize what she wears or to criticize old YouTube vids of her having some fun as a college student). I don't find this to be a particularly difficult distinction to make.
Beyond that, I think she's attractive. I think Melania Trump is attractive, as well. I don't see a problem with noting that, playfully or otherwise.
That said, sexualizing her for purposes of criticizing her is unfair (though it's also unfair when it's done to Melania).
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