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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 9:06:51 GMT -5
Last night was really fun, in a ranty drunky way, but I woke up deeply angry.
This is not okay. None of this is okay.
If Dems don't take back at least the House, I'm taking Max up on his bed and bucket.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 9:14:57 GMT -5
Seriously, it's her fucking self-righteous, self-justifying, hypocritical, piece of shit speech that pisses me off most. She clearly wrote that in advance, and nothing was going to change what she did.
Then Manchin, waiting till she announced so he had some cover...what a fucking pathetic turd.
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Post by maxinquaye on Oct 6, 2018 9:33:10 GMT -5
I mean, honestly, what did people expect? When Obama put forward Merrick Garland, the GOP used every trick in the book to block him. McConnell even promised that Obama wouldn’t be able to pass anything. They used big words then too.
Now that they have their man in the White House, obviously it’s a huge democratic and principled problems that the Democrats are opposing things.
People seem to expect high principle and honest objection from this GOP. I don’t know if that’s an expression of naïveté or deep cynicism. I don't know which of those two would be worse, actually.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 9:36:23 GMT -5
Not so much expect as hope, and only from a limited handful.
Like, no point hoping for anything from this piece of shit:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 10:13:28 GMT -5
It might amuse you to know that the bartenders joined the ranting. They were both quite well-informed and up to date on all the twists and developments in the confirmation story, including the ones that happened that day while they were working.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 10:39:06 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 11:19:13 GMT -5
I predict that stuff like this keeps coming out after Kavanaugh is seated.
ETA:
Update: More than 2400 law school professors have now signed onto the letter opposing Kavanaugh's confirmation.
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Post by robeiae on Oct 6, 2018 12:14:43 GMT -5
It might amuse you to know that the bartenders joined the ranting. They were both quite well-informed and up to date on all the twists and developments in the confirmation story, including the ones that happened that day while they were working. Bartenders work for tips.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 12:22:14 GMT -5
It might amuse you to know that the bartenders joined the ranting. They were both quite well-informed and up to date on all the twists and developments in the confirmation story, including the ones that happened that day while they were working. Bartenders work for tips. (1) part of my point was how very well-informed they were, following events on their phones even while working. They'd watched Collins' speech. I thought that was awesome -- I don't want it to be just a few geeks following this stuff. And by the way, one of them was a middle-aged white guy who bartended all his adult life. He wasn't doing it while he got his graduate degree in poly-sci. That's how it should be, ideally -- everyone paying attention and engaged. A well-informed citizenry is a good thing. (2) they were genuinely pissed off. I spent several years tending bar and waiting tables before, during, and after college, and I can tell the difference between sucking up to customers for tips and being so passionate you can't help but butt in and join a conversation between customers to add your two cents. They weren't making conversation with the lonely guy babbling at the end of the bar. They were interjecting themselves into a lively conversation a group of lawyers were having with each other (a group that was fairly obviously going to leave a good tip regardless). Don't get me wrong, we enjoyed it; that's how we roll. But not every group of patrons would necessarily enjoy the bartenders joining their conversation. So whatever.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 12:55:28 GMT -5
So here is where I am:
A yes vote on Kavanaugh, for me, outweighs every other thing a Senator may have accomplished or done that I admire or approve put together.
I think his confirmation is just that fundamentally problematic. It is not because he is conservative; I would not feel that way about a Gorsuch clone. It's for all the other reasons I gave in this thread.
This is a deep and lasting taint on the integrity of the Supreme Court.
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Post by prozyan on Oct 6, 2018 13:03:19 GMT -5
The integrity of the Supreme Court has been tainted for at least the past two decades....
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Post by robeiae on Oct 6, 2018 13:07:47 GMT -5
Bartenders work for tips. (1) part of my point was how very well-informed they were, following events on their phones even while working. They'd watched Collins' speech. I thought that was awesome -- I don't want it to be just a few geeks following this stuff. And by the way, one of them was a middle-aged white guy who bartended all his adult life. He wasn't doing it while he got his graduate degree in poly-sci. That's how it should be, ideally -- everyone paying attention and engaged. A well-informed citizenry is a good thing. (2) they were genuinely pissed off. I spent several years tending bar and waiting tables before, during, and after college, and I can tell the difference between sucking up to customers for tips and being so passionate you can't help but butt in and join a conversation between customers to add your two cents. They weren't making conversation with the lonely guy babbling at the end of the bar. They were interjecting themselves into a lively conversation a group of lawyers were having with each other (a group that was fairly obviously going to leave a good tip regardless). Don't get me wrong, we enjoyed it; that's how we roll. But not every group of patrons would necessarily enjoy the bartenders joining their conversation. So whatever. Yeah, they still work for tips... I'm sure you're right, that they were informed and that they shared your opinions. You were in Manhattan, after all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 13:14:42 GMT -5
The integrity of the Supreme Court has been tainted for at least the past two decades.... This, for me, is a good bit worse than anything that has gone before. Again, for the pile of reasons I've given in this thread. I'm really sick about it. I'm going out to the store to buy comfort food and scotch. Also, I'm going to make donations to Heitcamp, McCaskill, Donnelly, and Beto O'Rourke.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 15:51:36 GMT -5
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Post by celawson on Oct 6, 2018 17:10:47 GMT -5
The quote I gave is from the article. I initially interpreted the Tweet to be saying he had multiple complaints against him during his prior work as a judge. Just thought I'd clarify.
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