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Post by robeiae on Dec 6, 2016 7:46:03 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 8:11:11 GMT -5
The "fully briefed" "deliberate move" thing was put out by Trump's own people -- after his own "hey, she CALLED ME!" tweets -- and is at odds with Pence's "hey, it was just a courtesy call. doesn't mean anything," and after the massive uproar.
Either they're putting out two different contradictory stories, or someone is bullshitting. Was it Trump, playing dumb on his own alleged careful "brilliant" move, or was it people on his team, frantically scrambling after the fact to make it look like he knew what he was doing?
And "fully briefed" apparently didn't mean discussing the issue with anyone currently handling China and Taiwan in the administration. So was he?
And best case scenario? If the "carefully planned deliberate move" story is true? He's stuck a finger in the eye of our own current president.
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Post by robeiae on Dec 6, 2016 8:37:07 GMT -5
And best case scenario? If the "carefully planned deliberate move" story is true? He's stuck a finger in the eye of our own current president. Maybe. And as I said, I don't think President elects should be involving themselves in IR (or domestic policy, for that matter). Still...if there is any group of people in this country who need a collective poke in the eye, it's the cadre of elitists at the State Department. So I will shed a single tear for the current President.
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Post by Vince524 on Dec 6, 2016 13:21:15 GMT -5
Yeah, I have no issue with him poking at President Obama. And I don't have an issue with his wanting to shake things up with China. I just hope it was thought out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 13:30:01 GMT -5
I just hope it was thought out. I think we can all share in that hope. I do sincerely hope that China's reaction, the pros and cons of provoking China, how it might impact our interests, the reasons past presidents saw fit to follow the policy, etc., all were adequately considered. And if they weren't, I hope the incident at least blows over or works out for the best in the end.
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Dec 6, 2016 14:09:56 GMT -5
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