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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 11:06:20 GMT -5
FFS. You will by now all have heard of the so-called "caravan" of migrants heading north. I wish to god the media would stop playing into Trump's hands on this. It's a bunch of poor families desperate to escape terrible conditions at home and hoping to reach the U.S. for asylum. However you feel about that, can we at least all agree that this characterization is fucking insane?
"unknown Middle Easterners"? FFS. I really cannot take that this irresponsible, lying, hateful, racist piece of shit is POTUS.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 11:08:38 GMT -5
Dan Drezner has a point here:
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Post by prozyan on Oct 22, 2018 11:22:59 GMT -5
Trump's rhetoric is over the top.
Doesn't change the fact there isn't a nation on the Earth, including the US, that would or should accept a "Caravan" of 5k+ illegal immigrants.
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Post by mikey on Oct 22, 2018 11:26:46 GMT -5
This almost seems like a republican false flag event. Almost
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Post by Amadan on Oct 22, 2018 12:28:02 GMT -5
Trump's rhetoric is over the top. Doesn't change the fact there isn't a nation on the Earth, including the US, that would or should accept a "Caravan" of 5k+ illegal immigrants. Agreed. Mexico grants special visa status to migrants from other countries, specifically (and only) to allow them to cross Mexico on the way to the U.S. That is bullshit. I hate every single way Trump has handled the immigration issue. I hate the kids in cages, I hate the separating of families. That said - no, we do not fucking have to, and should not, accept thousands of people with sob stories who want to enter the U.S. because life back home sucked. If we're speculating on conspiratorial actors behind the scene, I really can't tell if this is more likely to be engineered by pro-Trumpists to fire up his base, or anti-Trumpists to stick Trump with another PR dilemma while generating outrage from the left.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 12:36:10 GMT -5
Can we agree that his Random Use of Capitalization is fUcKiNg CrAzY?
And I cannot be the only person who gets to "Middle Eastern" and goes WTF. All he needs is "Transgender" and "Feminist" and he'll have the whole damn Fox scare closet.
I think it's whacked, completely aside from the immigration perspective.
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Post by prozyan on Oct 22, 2018 12:40:35 GMT -5
Can we agree that his Random Use of Capitalization is fUcKiNg CrAzY? Yes. Doesn't really bother me all that much.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 12:47:56 GMT -5
I dunno. I begin to think he just sees brown people and thinks, "eh, South American, Mexican, Puerto Rican, African, Middle Eastern...same difference. Now. Back to defining Transgender people out of existence and bragging about my Electoral Victory!"
It's just...even aside from hating his policies, he's just so damn ignorant and obnoxious and that alone drives me batshit.
Excuse me while I bang my head on the wall.
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Then, too, taking aside whether we let them in, I see poor, desperate people. I think it's inexcusable to demonize them in the manner he does. Again with the "criminals". And a "National Emergy [sic]" that calls for "Military" action? Really? Well, fuck then, let's bring out the Nukes. Some Poor Hungry Ragged Brown people are walking our way! Blow those Bastards Up! Don't miss the little ones!
I could agree with him on every point on immigration (though of course I do not) and still find all of that horrible.
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Post by markesq on Oct 22, 2018 13:40:20 GMT -5
Shockingly, I agree entirely with Cass. The Middle Easterners comment just shows his built-in racism,imo, because all brown people are foreigners and bad. He's a vile human being.
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Post by maxinquaye on Oct 22, 2018 15:51:24 GMT -5
I feel insulted by the mere existence of this tweet.
First, if I was an ISIS fighter with the ability to travel (and not, you know, hiding in a hole in the ground in Syria waiting for the Russian or American bombs to drop on me), I’d just head to Riyadh and board a plane. I’d bribe someone for some documents linking me to a US defence contractor, or a Saudi company doing business with a US defence contractor.
Because, you know, when Trump drew up those stupid travel-bans, he made sure that he excluded the home country of most of the Jihadis – Saudi Arabia. I mean, Saudis flew lots of planes into lots of important US buildings and killed thousands of Americans, but it was the Iraqis who were invaded in retaliation. The Saudis, they’re now an ally, and exempt from blame. If I was Iran, I’d worry. If Saudis kill more Americans, the US will probably invade Iran. Or Mexico.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 8:12:24 GMT -5
(Posted for the second tweet, which made me laugh, in a bleak sort of way.)
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Post by celawson on Oct 23, 2018 20:44:17 GMT -5
From the Dept of Homeland Security Press Secretary:
This caravan issue is going to help the GOP at midterms.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 21:00:42 GMT -5
Oh, well, if TYLER Q. HOULTON says it's so, that's another thing entirely. I totally believe people from the Middle East flew to Honduras so that they could walk thousands of miles through deserts to invade our great nation's southern border.
Tyler might want to let Trump know he got it right the first time, though. Life comes at ya fast in Trump world. It's hard to keep up.
Is there nothing so ludicrous you won't defend it, c.e., if it comes out of Trump? Nothing?
I mean, we've seen this eleventy million times. Trump says something preposterous. His aides and enablers scramble to back him. Then he reverses himself. This is, on its face, fucking absurd.
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By the way, you don't think maybe he could be saying this shit because midterms are coming and he needs all his scare monsters to get his base to the polls, do you? Oh, no. That's the kind of awful stuff Dems do with silly petty nonsense like dismembered journalists. Trump is above all that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 21:24:05 GMT -5
Seriously. This is so fucked up. Let's break it down, shall we?
It's pretty clear that Trump's initial claim that Middle Eastern people are in the caravan is intended to imply that they are terrorists, joining the caravan to wreak terror on the U.S.
Except, as I implied in my last post, flying to Honduras and walking thousands of miles is about as fucking inefficient and stupid a way of doing it as I can imagine.
And wait -- even assuming some ARE Middle Eastern, does the mere fact of being Middle Eastern make them dangerous? Are all Middle Eastern people terrorists? If he's not implying that, is he implying that they are, what, tourists? People descended from Middle Eastern settlers? Why mention it, except as an implication that Middle Eastern=terrorist?
And taking aside that stupidity, just how exactly would he know who's in this caravan, anyway? Has he sent Jared down to interview caravan members? Did the Middle East terrorist and criminals fess up?
IT'S FUCKING STUPID. IT IS OBVIOUSLY STUPID. IT'S BULLSHIT. HE WAS TALKING OUT HIS ASS, LIKE HE ALWAYS DOES. EVERYONE SCRAMBLING TO BACK HIM WILL LOOK LIKE A JACKASS, LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO. IT'S RACIST DOGWHISTLE SHIT, LIKE IT ALWAYS IS. IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY, LIKE IT'S BEEN SINCE JANUARY 2017.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 21:35:46 GMT -5
Check out @ellievan65’s Tweet:
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