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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 8:53:13 GMT -5
Constitution? What Constitution?
And apparently he doesn't think he necessarily needs Congress to do it. I'd laugh, except that I'm not exactly confident this Congress would do a damn thing if he issued an executive order on this.
By the way, we are not the only country that grants birthright citizenship. That is yet another lie that half the country will swallow without question.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 9:02:40 GMT -5
I truly am not confident that Congress would do a damn thing if he issued such an order. And I AM confident the Republican base would support it.
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Post by prozyan on Oct 30, 2018 9:23:20 GMT -5
Doesn't matter. It would require an amendment to the Constitution. I can't imagine he could possibly get 2/3 support of BOTH the House and the Senate for this ridiculous idea.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 9:32:01 GMT -5
Oh, yes, certainly that's what's supposed to happen.
He's saying he can bypass that with an executive order. I am genuinely uncertain of what this Congress would do if he did that, and began taking citizenship from certain (brown) people.
I mean, sure, Jeff Flake would issue a concern tweet, but would they stand up and stop him?
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Post by prozyan on Oct 30, 2018 9:34:17 GMT -5
Trump can say what he wants. He says a lot of shit. Rarely does something ever come of it. Tariffs are about the only thing of any real meaning he has been able to accomplish.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 9:42:01 GMT -5
To me, it is scary even to hear him talk about doing an end run around the constitution -- and then to watch some on the right start to coalesce around "hey, that's a good idea!"
He's not some kook fringe crank. He's the president.
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Post by markesq on Oct 30, 2018 9:45:56 GMT -5
And, as far as I'm concerned, there's not nearly enough talk about WHY he wants to do this. Is there any conceivably legitimate explanation other than that he's a racist?
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Post by prozyan on Oct 30, 2018 9:47:52 GMT -5
The same reason he threw a fit about dairy tariffs with Canada. He perceives anchor babies and chain migration as a problem destroying the fabric of America and something must be done about it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 10:03:56 GMT -5
The same reason he threw a fit about dairy tariffs with Canada. He perceives anchor babies and chain migration as a problem destroying the fabric of America and something must be done about it. I don't think he has any convictions that don't relate to his ego and wallet. I think it's more that he's playing to those who think anchor babies and chain migration are a problem destroying the fabric of America. And the Constitution be damned.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 10:24:43 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 10:50:04 GMT -5
(Obviously, it's satire.)
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Post by celawson on Oct 30, 2018 11:05:31 GMT -5
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Post by markesq on Oct 30, 2018 11:15:24 GMT -5
I could be wrong, but I don't think even Trump is brazen / dumb enough to actually sign such an order.
I repeat: I could be wrong....
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Post by prozyan on Oct 30, 2018 11:29:03 GMT -5
I don't think he is either, Mark. BUT, he is sly and clever enough to threaten to sign such an order, then decry to left for not letting him and spin the story that the left is threatening the security of the nation.
Which is what I think he's attempting to do.
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Post by gaild on Oct 30, 2018 11:41:26 GMT -5
Or, it's one of those things he says to get the Dems all riled up and not focused on getting people to the polls to vote.
I smell another distraction here. Look behind the smoke and mirrors. What's really going on?
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