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robeiae
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This is just glorious Nov 15, 2018 16:10:38 GMT -5 Don, Optimus, and 1 more like this

Post by robeiae on Nov 15, 2018 16:10:38 GMT -5

www.local10.com/news/florida/florida-cops-bust-drivers-who-dont-stop-for-school-bus-after-moms-complain

Florida drivers who refused to follow the law next to a stopped school bus learned their lesson the hard way thanks to two moms looking to end the dangerous driving.

For weeks, Kristen Rieger and Monica Douglas of Port Richey would film drivers speeding past the stopped school bus along US 19. As the cars zoomed past, the mothers would yell at the drivers, urging them to stop, WFTS reports.

Once Pasco County deputies saw the video, they took action by blocking off the road and stopping all drivers who sped past the stopped bus. Each driver was ticketed for the violation.

Even while the officers were handing out tickets, vehicles continued to pass the bus while the "stop" signs were extended.

Be sure to watch the video at the bottom.

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Optimus
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This is just glorious Nov 15, 2018 17:37:24 GMT -5 robeiae likes this

Post by Optimus on Nov 15, 2018 17:37:24 GMT -5

I can't stand people who do that. I don't even have kids and I still stop every time because: 1) If I did have kids, I wouldn't want anything to happen to them and; 2) When I was a little kid, I certainly wouldn't have wanted my life ended getting off the bus because some asshole was in a hurry.

Glad they were able to bust some people. Likely won't make much of a difference, but small victories are better than no victories.

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Don
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This is just glorious Nov 16, 2018 5:27:06 GMT -5

Post by Don on Nov 16, 2018 5:27:06 GMT -5

This has been all over social media, and the condemnation of the drivers in the comments is blistering.

Educational campaigns and public shunning are two effective yet non-coercive ways society can address problems. This ticks both boxes. I like it.

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Amadan
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This is just glorious Nov 17, 2018 11:41:13 GMT -5

Post by Amadan on Nov 17, 2018 11:41:13 GMT -5

Nov 16, 2018 5:27:06 GMT -5 Don said:

This has been all over social media, and the condemnation of the drivers in the comments is blistering.

Educational campaigns and public shunning are two effective yet non-coercive ways society can address problems. This ticks both boxes. I like it.

But it's the tickets they received that actually imposed consequences. Do you think without cops stopping the drivers and ticketing them, "education and public shunning" would have the same effect?

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markesq
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This is just glorious Nov 17, 2018 13:18:53 GMT -5

Post by markesq on Nov 17, 2018 13:18:53 GMT -5

Nov 17, 2018 11:41:13 GMT -5 Amadan said:

Nov 16, 2018 5:27:06 GMT -5 Don said:

This has been all over social media, and the condemnation of the drivers in the comments is blistering.

Educational campaigns and public shunning are two effective yet non-coercive ways society can address problems. This ticks both boxes. I like it.

But it's the tickets they received that actually imposed consequences. Do you think without cops stopping the drivers and ticketing them, "education and public shunning" would have the same effect?

Right. Seems to me it wasn't until the police showed up that there were any consequences. Community action was ineffective up to that point.

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Don
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This is just glorious Nov 17, 2018 15:35:53 GMT -5

Post by Don on Nov 17, 2018 15:35:53 GMT -5

Nov 17, 2018 11:41:13 GMT -5 Amadan said:

Nov 16, 2018 5:27:06 GMT -5 Don said:

This has been all over social media, and the condemnation of the drivers in the comments is blistering.

Educational campaigns and public shunning are two effective yet non-coercive ways society can address problems. This ticks both boxes. I like it.

But it's the tickets they received that actually imposed consequences. Do you think without cops stopping the drivers and ticketing them, "education and public shunning" would have the same effect?

Nope. Unfortunately, most people today would blow it off it there were no penalty attached. This is an example of the synergy between legal penalties and public engagement. Without the publicity, the ticket itself makes an impression on only one driver.

This blitzkrieg informed and shamed not only several idiots, but tens of thousands got the message that there are legal and personal penalties for ignoring those bus signs. That's effective leveraging, IMO.

And I've got no problem with authorities penalizing people carelessly handling lethal weapons around children, which I think this equates to.

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Economics puts parameters on people’s utopias. ~Peter Boettke
"It's the voter's fault" is victim-blaming in its purest sense. ~Don
The 'social contract' is to the politician what 'original sin' is to the priest. ~Don
The vision of the helpful and protective state is the most pervasive and counter-productive ideology in the world today. ~Don
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