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Post by Vince524 on Oct 20, 2020 15:39:34 GMT -5
I disagree that it was a strawman arguement. I was responding to this. Bolding, italics, and underlining mine. It was a simple and I feel reasonable reading of what you wrote. Maybe you simply used the word must and intended it to mean something besides a regulation that stipulates that they cannot use a lethal forced option until they have exhausted non-lethal methods first, but there's nothing there to suggest otherwise. I don't see anything to indicate that you meant in some cases. Again, you didn't write the legislation so perhaps your language wasn't as exact. I'm trying not to make assumptions. If it wasn't a strawman, then I can only surmise that you either don't know what "illegal" means, or perhaps you don't know how jobs work. If my boss says that, as part of my required job duties/expectations, that I "must" clock in by 9:00 AM and I don't do it, that's not a law. That's a job regulation/requirement. If I break that regulation, I get fired. I don't go to jail. This is just a preachy rant that ignores both what I said and the obvious spirit in which I said it. Seems you agree with me and you're only finding my wording "objectionable" because you didn't take care to pay attention to what I actually said and instead imputed your own biases on it. It was unclear to me that you were talking about a job regulation vs. a new law. If the fault in my misunderstanding is with me, I'll apologize. Having said that, putting a regulation in place that tells a cop if he's being shot at, he has to first use a tazer or he'll be fired, loose his job, pension, etc for defending his life, isn't smart. You said, we could carve out exceptions. You can't possibly feel you can account for every possible option. At some point, it comes down to judgement of the cop on the spot. We're on the same page that use of non lethal force in many cases seems to be the way to go. All I'm saying is it's not as simple as 'hey, lets force cops to do this' which is how your first comment read to me. Again, if that's my misreading of it, so be it. But there's a reason why they call the book with those regulations in it a Patrol Guide and not a rulebook. It's a guide to how you should handle things, as no book can account for every scenario.
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Post by robeiae on Oct 23, 2020 8:15:26 GMT -5
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Post by robeiae on Oct 23, 2020 13:00:12 GMT -5
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Post by Vince524 on Oct 24, 2020 20:31:23 GMT -5
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Post by robeiae on Oct 24, 2020 21:36:37 GMT -5
You have to admire unbridled honesty from a politician.
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Post by michaelw on Oct 24, 2020 21:42:15 GMT -5
Classic.
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Post by robeiae on Oct 25, 2020 7:38:07 GMT -5
You know, that's a pretty funny screw-up from Biden. And it's obviously just a screw-up, not a Freudian slip. The Trump-bots are of course sharing it like wildfire and saying it IS a Freudian slip. But you know where it's not being shared? The professional media. Why not? Think back to various "Bushisms" and how quick the media was to share them. Hell, I think the media even reported Obama's "57 States" gaffe, even if to only show that it was just a little mistake that was probably a result of the arduous campaign trail.
But they'r not sharing or reporting on Biden's flubs. Hell they're carrying water for him on the fracking stuff.
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Post by Optimus on Oct 25, 2020 14:12:26 GMT -5
What if I told you that "Freudian slips" are bullshit?
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Post by robeiae on Oct 25, 2020 18:13:49 GMT -5
Hilarious:
Apparently, Putin is now a trusted source...
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Post by michaelw on Oct 25, 2020 18:46:36 GMT -5
Hedging his bets?
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Post by Optimus on Oct 25, 2020 22:51:36 GMT -5
This is the result of filtering one's reality through "oRaNgE mAn BaD" colored goggles. Trump's behavior is by no stretch of a rational person's imagination an "epic meltdown." He did not "storm out" of the interview like so many blue checks on Twitter and lefty media claimed. Sure, he got pissy but he has a legitimate point about Biden getting softball questions in his interview (even though we all know that Trump can't handle tough questions either). He was irritated, the producer told them they were almost out of time, so he stopped there. That's not a meltdown or storming out or WTF ever they want to call it. And, it's certainly not "worse than reported." If anything, it's not nearly as bad as I've seen it reported (and, it should be noted, that the severity of his "meltdown" and "storming out" was reported before most of the reporters who were claiming that had even seen the footage). Shit, Robert Downey, Jr. did much more than that and it was simply reported as him "walking out" of an interview: www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYrporR9hHE
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Post by robeiae on Oct 26, 2020 8:30:54 GMT -5
This is a shameful exchange:
WTF is Stahl talking about? How can anyone take her seriously when she says something as god-awful stupid as that? This "the laptap was planted by the Russsians" angle is dead as a doornail. Whether or not Joe Biden is involved in any funny business is an open question (I doubt that he is, but it's not proven either way), but there's little question that the laptop is Hunter's and the stuff on it is genuine.
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Post by robeiae on Oct 26, 2020 8:53:00 GMT -5
Oh my. Is AOC the proverbial adult in the room, now?
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Post by robeiae on Oct 26, 2020 9:09:55 GMT -5
This is some funny shit: Hate Wokeness? Vote Biden.To summarize: if you don't like the cadre of woke babies who make up the far left, then vote for Biden, because then the babies will be somewhat pacified and unlikely to keep crying. Christ, someone knows nothing about children...
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Post by prozyan on Oct 26, 2020 10:01:19 GMT -5
I thought the idea that appeasement only makes the aggressor more aggressive was a universally accepted fact.
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