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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 22:36:22 GMT -5
I say if the kids knew and went along with it, they belong out of the school on their ass.
Elite schools receive applications from way more incredibly qualified students than they can possibly accept. For every one of these kids ...(and, um , actually, if they're in college they are 18. My mom was married and pregnant with me at 18. Just saying) ...who were willing to lie to get a slot under false pretenses, there were ten kids who were also qualified -- but didn't get in because this kid lied to get that spot.
No. No. Out they should go. They can redeem themselves -- but they can do so elsewhere. They shouldn't be rewarded for their bad actions. Indeed, allowing them to keep their slots is an encouragement for other families to try it in the future.
Let one of the deserving kids on the wait list get that slot. Douche kid can take a gap year or two, do some volunteer work and/or get a job, and then reapply to schools, writing his /her essay about what he/she learned from the debacle.
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Post by robeiae on Aug 4, 2019 7:53:57 GMT -5
Really, I would think the honor codes of these schools would provide sufficient justification.
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Post by Vince524 on Aug 4, 2019 10:21:40 GMT -5
I say if the kids knew and went along with it, they belong out of the school on their ass. Elite schools receive applications from way more incredibly qualified students than they can possibly accept. For every one of these kids ...(and, um , actually, if they're in college they are 18. My mom was married and pregnant with me at 18. Just saying) ...who were willing to lie to get a slot under false pretenses, there were ten kids who were also qualified -- but didn't get in because this kid lied to get that spot. No. No. Out they should go. They can redeem themselves -- but they can do so elsewhere. They shouldn't be rewarded for their bad actions. Indeed, allowing them to keep their slots is an encouragement for other families to try it in the future. Let one of the deserving kids on the wait list get that slot. Douche kid can take a gap year or two, do some volunteer work and/or get a job, and then reapply to schools, writing his /her essay about what he/she learned from the debacle. I don't think there's any issue with telling a student you're here because you committed fraud, therefore you're gone. My concern is that they're holding up admissions to students in the new term who were signed up through the same jackass. He clearly wanted bribes, but there's no reason to think every student he signed up didn't deserve it. Have the kids have the chance to withdraw. If they don't, they come in the fall and if it turns out they aren't whatever sports person they were supposed to be, they then get kicked out. If you hold up 100 kids from starting in the fall, and 25 of them are guilty, the other 75 have now suffered. They can't just say, screw it I'll go somewhere else in the beginning of August. If they had other offers from schools, those offers are now gone to others. So they get a gap year?
As far as those who got it, yeah they went along with this, maybe whole heartidly, but even though they are seniors now, they were minors when the fraud happened. (My daughters are on the younger side, both started college with still 17.) So force them to withdraw and go somewhere that they can get in honestly. An expulsion on their record could easily end any chance of getting into another school.
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Post by robeiae on May 21, 2020 8:52:39 GMT -5
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Post by Optimus on May 21, 2020 17:23:52 GMT -5
They're getting off rather easy.
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Post by robeiae on May 21, 2020 18:54:20 GMT -5
I do't see how she is getting less time, unless that was a part of the deal: he took extra time to cut back on hers.
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Post by robeiae on Dec 30, 2020 8:04:57 GMT -5
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Post by Optimus on Dec 30, 2020 13:20:26 GMT -5
To be fair, Janet Hubert has had no career since she got fired from Fresh Prince for being difficult to work with.
Also, I just can't take anyone seriously who invokes race/privilege in every issue. It's nothing more than a faux-virtuous cry for "oppression attention." And Hubert doing it here seems a lot like a "hey! Remember me? Please help me to feel relevant again" post.
But, I will agree that Loughlin and her husband got off easy. She should've spent a lot longer in jail than she did or at least been fined enough money to where it actually felt punitive. This is basically a soft slap on the wrist for something that deserved to have the entire book thrown at them.
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Post by robeiae on Dec 30, 2020 14:33:14 GMT -5
At the end of the day, I would argue that Laughlin--and others--will actually make a ton of money from all this and most of their elite friends won't be excluding them from anything. Really, they'll be much more in demand.
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