Debate 1: watched for 90 minutes, got bored and watched something else. No one stood out to me, I kinda like Warren but a big old yawn on the night.
Agreed. I got about 15 minutes in and just couldn't take it anymore. Was soooo boring and, at times, it just seemed like people were trying to "out woke" each other like Julian Castro oddly denying biology and claiming that trans women can get abortions, or Booker and O'Rourke having some sort of "I speak Spanish" dick-measuring contest that just came across as obvious, sad pandering for hispanic votes.
Debate 2: much more interesting. Harris and Mayor Pete did well, I think, and poor old Joe looked washed up and out of sorts. Likewise, Bernie's angry old man shtick is utterly tiresome.
Harris definitely had the most stage presence but, to me, a lot of what she said seemed like pre-planned "zingers" and made-for-TV sound bites (even her "food fight vs food on table" comment came across as planned).
Not surprising to anyone who knows my preference, but Buttigieg's answers were the most thoughtful and well-reasoned of anyone up there and his sincerity seemed more genuine and less insincere and forced than the other candidates.
Swalwell just came across as a troll, Biden often looked like a guy who couldn't find his wallet, and Bernie's tired, worn out angry shtick is just a boring regurgitation of every "Noun + verb + millionaires and billionaires" speech he gave in 2015/2016. He's shown absolutely no growth as a candidate at all in the past 4 years.
I was annoyed that Yang didn't get to speak more but I think he could've and should've been more assertive. Some of what Harris said lacked substance (just carefully crafted applause lines) but the reason she was so successful at it was that she was intentionally assertive and aggressive in ensuring that she got to speak.
I thought Bullock and Delaney were particularly strong in their attempts to combat the progressives, though I think Warren did enough to satisfy the talking heads on the left, thus will receive a lot of praise for her performance.
Beto disappeared into the ether. He really needs to hang it up.
Post by CassandraW on Jul 31, 2019 14:20:22 GMT -5
Williamson is batshit and needs to go away. Several of the other candidates do too (come on, people --we need Senators, too), but she needs to go far away.
Bernie yells too much. It's annoying.
The candidates seem to have realized that tacking to the very far left might be a mistake in 2020.
I thought Warren did well.
The format sucks. I do think they need to keep the candidates to their time limits, but the time limits need to be longer. Hopefully by the next round we'll have lost at least half these candidates and can give the serious ones more talking time.
I'm biased here, but I thought Yang did well, at least relative to his last performance. One issue with him, though, is that he almost sounds "too smart" and esoteric in some of the things he says. He also tends to focus primarily on automation and his "Freedom Dividend," and little else. He has a ton of policy positions on his website but doesn't really bust them out much in public.
Buttigieg did respectably. Didn't lose any ground but I don't think his presence had enough "oomph" to move him up much, either. He also suffers a bit from the problem of being the smartest guy on stage, but that doesn't always translate well into communicating his ideas in a way that rises above the shouting and incredibly lame, pre-planned "zingers" like Booker's stupid kool-aid line or Harris' entire performance from the first debate. As much as I hate "soundbite politicking," he needs to unleash some key, quotable moments in the next debate in order to make some significant headway.
Sander's shtick is just tired and cliche at this point, and I feel the compulsion to yawn whenever he starts talking. Warren did OK but her desperate pandering to the far left will bite her in the ass.
Gabbard busted up Harris pretty good. It was a good "Emperor has no clothes" moment and likely the start of more to come. Harris' juvenile, "I expected it because I'm a top-tier candidate and she's polling at 1%" line after the debate only made her look worse. I don't expect her to move down much in the polls immediately, but I anticipate a steady decline for her.
According to the polls, Biden is still on top which is both unsurprising and slightly disappointing.