Post by robeiae on Apr 7, 2021 7:10:03 GMT -5
Remember when Papa John's founder John Schnatter got hammered for using the n-word in a call with his marketing agency? When woke culture essentially ended him? Well, the audio and transcripts of the fateful call have been released. And--shockingly--it's possible he was railroaded: www.nationalreview.com/2021/04/papa-john-was-railroaded/
The word in context:
The comments of the marketing peeps (that were muted to Schnatter) before and after the above:
Wow. What a bunch of sniveling little shitballs. They are supposed to be working FOR Schnatter, and they can't even contain themselves for the duration of one call.
I think Schnatter still comes across as something of an ass and an elitist (if not a bigot), but it really does look like the firm he hired to help him was dar more interested in sinking him by making him into the Grand Wizard of Pizza.
The word in context:
As the call wound down, it appears from the recording and transcript that Schnatter (unmuted) began venting to his team about the situation he was in, while Stein (on mute) started venting to his team about their shared loathing of Schnatter, and the Laundry Service team recorded both conversations. Schnatter complained about prior PR and ad agencies refusing to let him talk, and that’s when he said this to Ritchie and Wollrich:
I got to tell you, heaven forbid this company if they’re not going to use me at all. After I’ve looked at this research, I mean, I’m just not seeing how you’re not going to tell the Papa John story and let them – what bothers me is Colonel Sanders called blacks n******. I’m like, I’ve never used that word. And they get away with it. [UNINTELLIGIBLE CROSSTALK] Yet we use the word debacle and we get framed in the same genre. It’s crazy. The whole thing’s crazy.
STEIN: I think by Sunday John won’t be working . . . [UNINTELLIGIBLE] anymore. . . . This is what happens when a sociopath spirals. [FEMALE LAUGHTER]. . . . I hope he gets f****n’ sent out to the pasture on this shit. I really, really f****n’ do.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: All of his answers just said a lot about him. They were very revealing.
STEIN: Yeah. I mean I already, that’s already all been revealed to me. That’s why I just want him to go out and talk.
[snip]
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Because he can’t even take the most, like, simple, like just acknowledge . . . why they’re doing this protest, like he wouldn’t even pick up on that.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Yeah, he’s really not in touch.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: But [CROSSTALK] — he’s like the players don’t care. They’re going to still protest because that’s more important to me.
STEIN: He’s a racist.
FEMALE SPEAKER: Then he’s a racist.
STEIN: He has no problem saying that black people were dragged behind a car, using the N-word just now, but he can’t just f****ing say that.
FEMALE SPEAKER: Did he actually use the N-word? . . .
JASON STEIN: He said — he called them N word and he’s fine, but all I did was say debacle. He has no problem saying that but he can’t say that he said anything wrong.
TIM POLDER: Yep, it’s crazy.
JASON STEIN: He’s racist.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: He’s racist.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: But the thing is he’s all about like money and to me the players saying that they’re still going to protest is because they’re saying this is a real issue, it’s not about the money. It’s not about us throwing our salaries. It’s not about us, not having . . .
POLDER: But values don’t mean anything if they don’t cost you anything, and that’s what the players are proving, why they keep on protesting. Colin Kaepernick, there’s only one reason he’s not playing right now. It’s not because he sucks.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: I think the most uncomfortable part of this whole thing beyond all the uncomfortable parts were that when we said are you racist and he first read that question he had to ask the rest of the . . . team if he’s still working with a certain, like, community or committee still . . .
POLDER: That’s the CEO’s equivalent of “I’ve got a black friend,” and then he added “I’ve got a black bodyguard.”
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Before I was like yeah, it’s money driven. But now I’m like he’s actually very much, in fact, a racist from a lot of the answers he gave. It’s like a lack of self-awareness and a lack of curiosity, and a lack of trying to like change his view, or attack it in his life, because if you just want to live in this box, then that is the ingredient to racism.
POLDER: Okay. Devil’s advocate. Despite the plan, the plan’s the plan. No one, no one has said to him, “dude, are you really not getting it? You are out of touch.” Everyone, including us, are pandering a little bit to him. No one is saying to him, “you are actually out of touch. You cannot say these things. I get your empathy note about that you find it horrible that . . .”
STEIN: He knows. He knows . . .
[snip]
STEIN: I just want him to go and speak the truth, and I want him — write down the bullet points, and then go f***ing — just have to make sure it’s an hour-long conversation, so that he says sh** like he said here. It’s gonna come out. He can’t control it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: I want the person interviewing him to know even though he knows to not say those specific answers, I want that sh** to come out too.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Well, it’s going to come out now because even now he started spiraling.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Like, I want whatever we recorded to be like the actual interview.
STEIN: I already spoke to Darren Rovell who said he gets it, and he said he’ll only do it if he can ask all the hard questions and really talk about all the hard issues and he’ll do it for an hour on Twitter live and he’ll let people ask questions. So, we just have to make sure he does that. You can’t give a five-minute sound bite. And Bill Simmons will do it too. I’ll call Bill and ask.
[snip]
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Americans For Prosperity . . .
MALE SPEAKER: That’s a f***ing super right wing, like crazy . . .
JASON STEIN: Thank you. Hang in there, guys. Sorry you had to hear that crap.
POLDER: So, he’s BFFs with Pence, Koch.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: All of his answers just said a lot about him. They were very revealing.
STEIN: Yeah. I mean I already, that’s already all been revealed to me. That’s why I just want him to go out and talk.
[snip]
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Because he can’t even take the most, like, simple, like just acknowledge . . . why they’re doing this protest, like he wouldn’t even pick up on that.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Yeah, he’s really not in touch.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: But [CROSSTALK] — he’s like the players don’t care. They’re going to still protest because that’s more important to me.
STEIN: He’s a racist.
FEMALE SPEAKER: Then he’s a racist.
STEIN: He has no problem saying that black people were dragged behind a car, using the N-word just now, but he can’t just f****ing say that.
FEMALE SPEAKER: Did he actually use the N-word? . . .
JASON STEIN: He said — he called them N word and he’s fine, but all I did was say debacle. He has no problem saying that but he can’t say that he said anything wrong.
TIM POLDER: Yep, it’s crazy.
JASON STEIN: He’s racist.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: He’s racist.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: But the thing is he’s all about like money and to me the players saying that they’re still going to protest is because they’re saying this is a real issue, it’s not about the money. It’s not about us throwing our salaries. It’s not about us, not having . . .
POLDER: But values don’t mean anything if they don’t cost you anything, and that’s what the players are proving, why they keep on protesting. Colin Kaepernick, there’s only one reason he’s not playing right now. It’s not because he sucks.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: I think the most uncomfortable part of this whole thing beyond all the uncomfortable parts were that when we said are you racist and he first read that question he had to ask the rest of the . . . team if he’s still working with a certain, like, community or committee still . . .
POLDER: That’s the CEO’s equivalent of “I’ve got a black friend,” and then he added “I’ve got a black bodyguard.”
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Before I was like yeah, it’s money driven. But now I’m like he’s actually very much, in fact, a racist from a lot of the answers he gave. It’s like a lack of self-awareness and a lack of curiosity, and a lack of trying to like change his view, or attack it in his life, because if you just want to live in this box, then that is the ingredient to racism.
POLDER: Okay. Devil’s advocate. Despite the plan, the plan’s the plan. No one, no one has said to him, “dude, are you really not getting it? You are out of touch.” Everyone, including us, are pandering a little bit to him. No one is saying to him, “you are actually out of touch. You cannot say these things. I get your empathy note about that you find it horrible that . . .”
STEIN: He knows. He knows . . .
[snip]
STEIN: I just want him to go and speak the truth, and I want him — write down the bullet points, and then go f***ing — just have to make sure it’s an hour-long conversation, so that he says sh** like he said here. It’s gonna come out. He can’t control it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: I want the person interviewing him to know even though he knows to not say those specific answers, I want that sh** to come out too.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Well, it’s going to come out now because even now he started spiraling.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Like, I want whatever we recorded to be like the actual interview.
STEIN: I already spoke to Darren Rovell who said he gets it, and he said he’ll only do it if he can ask all the hard questions and really talk about all the hard issues and he’ll do it for an hour on Twitter live and he’ll let people ask questions. So, we just have to make sure he does that. You can’t give a five-minute sound bite. And Bill Simmons will do it too. I’ll call Bill and ask.
[snip]
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Americans For Prosperity . . .
MALE SPEAKER: That’s a f***ing super right wing, like crazy . . .
JASON STEIN: Thank you. Hang in there, guys. Sorry you had to hear that crap.
POLDER: So, he’s BFFs with Pence, Koch.
Wow. What a bunch of sniveling little shitballs. They are supposed to be working FOR Schnatter, and they can't even contain themselves for the duration of one call.
I think Schnatter still comes across as something of an ass and an elitist (if not a bigot), but it really does look like the firm he hired to help him was dar more interested in sinking him by making him into the Grand Wizard of Pizza.