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Post by robeiae on Aug 14, 2021 7:44:16 GMT -5
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Post by robeiae on Aug 14, 2021 7:51:13 GMT -5
Then there's this:
I'd bet dollars to donuts that there's ZERO chance the party will get labeled a driver, regardless of the truth of the matter.
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Post by Optimus on Aug 14, 2021 23:11:49 GMT -5
I really don't understand Republicans' (and some of the militant progressives') issue with this. It was a freaking birthday party for someone who hasn't been President in 5 years. It was a private event. Aren't conservatives the ones who've been whining for the past year that they should be able to have get togethers and private events with whomever they want to? But, when Obama (who is a private citizen and hasn't been an elected official in half a decade) does it, suddenly it's a huge fucking problem? Please. The hypocrisy is intoxicating.
Seriously, who gives a shit? And the people who do, shouldn't. It's not nearly important enough for people like Taibbi, Greenwald, Shapiro, etc., to get so apoplectic about. DeSantis's bullshit threats to (illegally) cut school administrators' pay for requiring kids to wear masks in school is much more important and much more egregious, than Obama having a damn birthday party.
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Post by robeiae on Aug 15, 2021 8:04:43 GMT -5
Yeeeeah...I wouldn't have an issue with a birthday party, per se. But the way in which it was pared down by the Obamas in the face of criticism really exemplified the general idea Taibbi was suggesting: that Obama's legacy has become how to make a zillion dollars after leaving office. And I think that this idea reflects a general and widespread--if not always acknlowedged--belief among the actual leftists and progressives out there that Obama took them all to the cleaners, that he was just Bill Clinton 2.0 and ultimately was more concerned with money and (celebrity) status than with any of the Hope and Change shtick he was (and still is) pedaling.
In a sense, it's the mother of all long cons and makes Trump look like an amateur.
For people who never fully bought into "Obama as savior," I can understand the "who cares" response. But come on, such people--like you--are hard to find in the world of celebrities and the mainstream media, because they're the ones who sold that image to everyone else.
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Post by Optimus on Aug 15, 2021 13:50:22 GMT -5
That seems to ignore that just days before the 2010 midterms, that McConnell announced that their top priority was not to serve the people but to ensure that Obama was a one-term President, and then he, John Boehner, and Paul Ryan spent the next 8 years creating the most obstructionist Congress in modern history.
I think Obama recoiled and genuflected too much when Republicans acted like evil, obstructionist assholes, and he should've put his foot down hard and often. But this new fictious narrative that people are trying to spin that he was somehow actually a bad President - or even that he was really horrible, as some progressives are starting to claim - is just plain not-based-in-reality bullshit. He wasn't as good as he could've been, and that was partly his own fault, but he wasn't bad or horrible and his failures were largely due to the fact that Republicans took a dramatic shift into no longer giving a fuck about governance or even faking the appearance of governance anymore.
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