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Post by robeiae on Jun 16, 2022 7:39:20 GMT -5
I double-checked:
Trying to get uber-woke bingo in just one tweet...
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Post by Optimus on Jun 16, 2022 12:19:45 GMT -5
This wins woke internet today.
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Post by robeiae on Aug 24, 2022 16:43:45 GMT -5
Also not a parody account:
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Post by Optimus on Aug 25, 2022 11:52:55 GMT -5
I don't mind them cancelling student debt, especially because I have a lot of it that needs cancelling. When compared to the $700 billion in PPP loans they gave out to mostly rich business owners and then forgave, this is pocket change. The issue I have with it is that it's a purely cosmetic gesture. Once payments start back up, that $10K per person will be recouped over the next couple of years in interest. This was a gift to the lenders, who pushed Biden for specifically $10K in relief, because they knew it wouldn't hurt them at all. They just wanted payments to start back up ASAP. The bigger issue with this is that it doesn't address the actual problem, which is rising tuition costs that are insanely, unjustifiably high. The entire tuition-and-federal-loan industry is a money transfer scam exacerbated by exponentially growing university administration payrolls. For example, University of Michigan has 48,000 students. For a student body that size, they have roughly 6800 academic faculty but also nearly 19,000 admnistrative staff. Their administrative staff is larger than the student population of most US universities. Contrast that with University of Toronto in Ontario, Canada, which has around 64,000 students. Even though they're teaching roughly 16,000 more students than UM, they somehow are able to do it with only 3200 faculty (about 3600 FEWER than UM) and only 7,400 administrative staff (around 12,000 FEWER than UM). The US university model is all kinds of fucked up and it seems to be designed this way to support a system that is indistinguishable from a price-gouging, money-laundering racket.
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Post by robeiae on Aug 26, 2022 7:40:49 GMT -5
A couple of things: 1) The PPP program was a total crock, and it was brought to us by both Dem and Repub, alike. But...people are misrepresenting it by comparing it to the cancellation of student debt. The PPP loans weren't suddenly forgiven one day, the program had stipulations and if you got a loan and met the requirements--or could at least show evidence that you did--by spending the money in specific ways, then you wouldn't be required to repay the loan. Still utter bullshit, as pols and their cronies reaped the rewards, but these weren't long term loans that were being repaid with interest then suddenly just written off. 2) Cancelling this debt will likely have consequences, not the least of which will probably be allowing universities to actually increase tuition and other costs, yet again. Also, this is an inflationary action (so was the PPP stuff) as a matter of course. Maybe inflation won't rise because of other factors, but this action feeds it, regardless. 3) No private lenders are involved here. Only government loanees can benefit.
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Post by Optimus on Aug 26, 2022 11:11:24 GMT -5
A couple of things: 1) The PPP program was a total crock, and it was brought to us by both Dem and Repub, alike. But...people are misrepresenting it by comparing it to the cancellation of student debt. The PPP loans weren't suddenly forgiven one day, the program had stipulations and if you got a loan and met the requirements--or could at least show evidence that you did--by spending the money in specific ways, then you wouldn't be required to repay the loan. Still utter bullshit, as pols and their cronies reaped the rewards, but these weren't long term loans that were being repaid with interest then suddenly just written off. My point was that the stupid retorts like "if you take out a loan, you should pay for it" that have been flying around (mostly from conservatives) about student loans are hypocritical, at best, given that the government forgives huge loans/debts all the time (including debts much bigger than what was just announced). Forgiving these loans will have zero affect on the average taxpayer just like forgiving the PPP loans had pretty much zero effect on the average tax payer (in terms of tax rates). This will likely have no effect on inflation. Repayments have been paused for the better part of the past two years so any effect that repayments would have on inflation is already baked in to current inflation rates. However, I do agree that it could lead universities to raise tuition yet again (that's the crux of the scam I talked about earlier) but they already do that anyway. Sorry, I meant loan servicers not lenders. It's true that the fedgov is technically the lender but fedgov doesn't service the loans itself in any meaningful way. Those duties were shifted to quasi-governmental "loan servicers" like MOHELA over a decade ago (and nearly all student loan balances were also shifted to these loan servicers too). There are also private financial companies like SoFi that participate in student loan servicing and refinancing. All of these loan servicers profit off of student loan payments via interest rates (duh). However, even private companies like SoFi cannot collect payments from student loan borrowers during fedgov's moratorium on payments, so they take a profit loss the longer the moratorium stays in effect. And, as I said, these loan servicers pressured Biden into cutting this deal, so that the repayments could start back up ASAP and they could start making money again: www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/sofi-ceo-biden-cancel-student-debt-restart-payments
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Post by robeiae on Aug 26, 2022 15:14:02 GMT -5
I agree that the retort is stupid, as is the "taxpayers are gonna have to pay for this." But I won't call it hypocritical with regard to the PPP program, simply because the rules for that program were clear from the get-go. The monies are called "loans" only for lack of better term, since the goal of the program was to hand out monies and NOT have them be repaid. In that regard, the program was a huge success...but of course it was also an inflationary event (which no one seems to be talking about, probably because both parties backed the program almost in full). And either way, the White House quote tweeting Repub congresscritters who oppose the loan forgiveness with PPP loan amounts is low brow shit; Trump--as I said many moons ago--has pulled everyone into the gutter with him. On the inflation stuff, the former chair of Obama's Council of Economic Advisers, Jason Furman: Beyond all of this, the whole thing is likely unconstitutional, as an executive action. It's something that should have gone through Congress.
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Post by Optimus on Aug 26, 2022 15:55:36 GMT -5
Yeah, but you can find just as many people (even economists) saying that it won't meaningfully increase inflation. Furman's just one guy and his (and others') "Chicken Little" doomsday proclamations of inflationary impact are 100% hypothetical. Those dubious assertions rest on a laundry list of bullshit assumptions of how people "might" spend the "extra" money that these economists claim people will have based on this small amount of debt relief. I remember when health experts like Fauci made a bunch of bullshit assumptions about how people "might" behave during the pandemic, and look how that turned out. The idea that this small amount of debt relief will lead to significant and immediate increases in consumer spending (which is the only way it would affect inflation) are questionable, at best, and farcical, at worst. www.vox.com/2022/8/25/23320825/student-loan-debt-forgiveness-inflationI somewhat get why some people are uneasy about it based on some sort of moral or economic principles (though I disagree with them), but this action will likely have zero impact on their lives at all. So why do they care other than "government do something bad in very abstract sense...me get big mad...so me go rage on Twitter!!! Grr!!!." The day-to-day lives and finances of the people most butt hurt about it will change the same amount of "not at all" as they did when the Bush government wasted trillions fighting wars in the Middle East. Regardless, I have almost $80,000 in student loans and barely make half of that a year, so the people who have their panties in the tightest of twists about Biden's action on student loans can go eat big fat dicks as far as I'm concerned. I'll take the relief and they can learn to cope.
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Post by robeiae on Aug 26, 2022 16:22:31 GMT -5
Regardless, I have almost $80,000 in student loans and barely make half of that a year, so the people who have their panties in the tightest of twists about Biden's action on student loans can go eat big fat dicks as far as I'm concerned. I'll take the relief and they can learn to cope. Haha, at the end of the day, you have to play the hand you're dealt. I've always thought the mortgage deduction on income taxes was utter BS and frankly cost the Feds a ton in tax revenues, but I took that deduction every year when I had a mortgage.
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Post by robeiae on Aug 30, 2022 11:03:44 GMT -5
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Post by Optimus on Aug 30, 2022 11:30:04 GMT -5
Haha, what a gullible Chicken Little. I also like the fact that she's wearing a gas mask in the profile pic. Adds a nice extra touch of hyperbolic hysteria to the account. Judging from her other posts, she's a brainwashed hypochondriac wacko. Which would be fine (live and let live, I s'pose), but she has nearly 40K followers. I hope most of them are fakes/trolls/bots and not real people.
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