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Post by Amadan on Dec 2, 2016 13:31:41 GMT -5
I don't think that word means what you think it means. It means exactly what I know it means. We could keep going back and forth on this, or I could be smart and stop responding since you've descended to "I'm rubber and you're glue." But here's the thing: objectively, you have lost the argument in this thread and done nothing but fling disparagement. Rob, Chrissy, Don, and I have all laid out our positions - what we think of Melania Trump's nude photos, how we think it impacts (or does not) the office of the Presidency, what it says about the state of politics that this is an issue, whether or not it should be an issue, etc. You have the option to disagree (which you have, vaguely and evasively, made it clear you do). You have been invited to explain your position. You haven't. Instead, you project, then accuse other people of projecting. You make dishonest statements (that we are "defending Melania Trump's honor" or "normalizing her behavior") etc., and when we go to the trouble of saying no, we're not, here is why, you repeat the accusation or move onto something else, like losing your shit at "apeshit" or playing "I know you are but what am I?" You are asked polite and reasonable questions ("How do you think people should react to Melania Trump's past as a nude model, other than saying 'Yes, that happened, and boy, sure is weird that the First Lady did that'?") and you refuse to answer, insult people (well, me) for asking the question, and insist you have already answered the question (you haven't). You have argued with everyone and attacked us for sticking to our position, and when argued with in return, complained that all you have done is defend your position (despite the fact that you haven't actually laid out a position beyond the fact that clearly you really, really disapprove of Melania Trump's nude photos) and whine that people keep arguing with you. To this post, you will respond, not with any sort of civil rejoinder or rational engagement, but some variation of "No, you." Just know I'm going to keep pointing this out, responding to you in as much detail as I have time for, picking apart your posts, and dissecting whatever you say when it doesn't make sense. Relentlessly. Feel free to change the tenor of the conversation by actually conducting yourself in a civilized manner.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 13:35:01 GMT -5
Ooh! Way to bring us back around, Cass! Nice pivot. That's how I got to be a moderator, Angie. Pass the popcorn, will you?
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Post by Christine on Dec 2, 2016 15:36:24 GMT -5
ETA: Re: Cass's article on the last page
This seems like another example of how mega-wealth can be a disadvantage when it comes to comprehending, let alone caring about, what regular people experience.
Traffic jams for thousands of people. Thousands of people having to use up more of their lives commuting, so this one special person can go to his special school.
Badly done.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 21:22:44 GMT -5
Yep, that's my view.
And seriously, even taking aside the horrific inconvenience of thousands -- really, millions -- of people trying to get to their jobs and live their live, snarled up in traffic problems caused by cordoned-off roads and bridges, the problem of ambulances and firetrucks getting stuck in it is going to mean some people die. There's nowhere for cars to pull over and let the ambulance pass. It's just STUCK there, maybe blocks or miles from where the jam starts, and nowhere to turn off. NYC traffic is no joke at the best of times, but just now, it's just over-the-top awful.
Even assuming Trump pays all the monumental extra costs of having security in NYC for his family on top of the security he'll have for himself in DC, he's not going to pay for the lost time of all those commuters, the businesses who lose customers (the ones within a block or two of Trump place and inside it are dooooommmmed) and people who need emergency services and don't get them fast enough.
I truly do think this is rather a big deal -- and yes, it shows Trump's self-centeredness.
It's not poor little Barron's fault, of course.
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Post by Christine on Dec 2, 2016 22:19:23 GMT -5
I think this would be a great opportunity to teach poor little Barron that the world does not revolve around him.
And in fact, to whom much is given, much is required.
But I'm a meanie mcmeanie mom sometimes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 22:23:27 GMT -5
The world could use more meanie mcmeanie moms of that particular kind, I think.
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Post by Christine on Dec 2, 2016 22:28:35 GMT -5
Jackbooted mods and mcmeanie moms, united.... we'd set the whole world right in short order.
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Post by nighttimer on Dec 4, 2016 23:07:50 GMT -5
It means exactly what I know it means. We could keep going back and forth on this, or I could be smart and stop responding since you've descended to "I'm rubber and you're glue." But here's the thing: objectively, you have lost the argument in this thread and done nothing but fling disparagement. Rob, Chrissy, Don, and I have all laid out our positions - what we think of Melania Trump's nude photos, how we think it impacts (or does not) the office of the Presidency, what it says about the state of politics that this is an issue, whether or not it should be an issue, etc. Objectively, that's a dumb statement even for you, Amadan. Nobody "wins" or "loses" an argument in a thread or don't you understand how Internet debating works? Your characterization is self-serving as it always is as you have little-to-no ability to critically analyze and fairly and objectively evaluate a thread you're a participant of. You are a partisan and you have expressed a partisan opinion, but you want to claim "objectively, you have lost the argument?" Get real. I have lost nothing because there is nothing to be won and there never was. I have no reason to be civil to you, Amadan. You have not been polite or reasonable. There's nothing "polite" or "reasonable" or anything resembling a civil rejoinder or rational engagement in your own words. Before you attempt to tell others about how to conduct themselves, take your own advice. You'll look a lot less hypocritical that way. There is nothing someone like you can teach me about conducting myself in a civilized manner. Your definition of "civilized behavior" is not my definition and yours is utterly unimportant to me. I didn't come to this board to be buddies with you or anyone else. So hate on me all you want, Amadan. I hope I provide you even more reasons to hate on me than you already do. The only thing I have to offer someone like you is disdain and contempt. You're really not deserving of anything more than that. On this board, apparently it is perfectly fine to treat another person this way just so long as it doesn't cross the line or break the rules. So let's be honest, shall we? You don't like me and I don't like me. What else do we have in common? However, if you want to make it your life's work to keep pointing this out, responding to me in as much detail as you have time for, picking apart my posts, and dissecting whatever I say when it doesn't make sense, relentlessly, then I have just three words for you: BRING IT ON. If protecting the tarnished "honor" of Melania Trump is the hill you want to plant your flag upon, go ahead and you be you. Just be sure you've had enough sleep, didn't skip breakfast, took your meds and packed a big lunch, because frankly, the frustrated fist-shaking of an Internet Troll doesn't bother me. Your vow to stalk me on this board doesn't phase me. The threats made by someone I don't know, don't care about and don't respect is no threat at all. In fact, it's kind of amusing you allow me to occupy so much space in your head you're going to go out of your way to try and police my posts. Have fun with that. You're not good enough to pick apart my posts. You never have been and you never will be, but it will be be funny to watch you try. There's a saying on the street: "You gotta bring ass to get ass" and everything about you tells me you're a little light in the ass. You got ambition, Amadan. Let's see if you have vision.
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Post by CG Admin on Dec 5, 2016 7:39:37 GMT -5
Yeah...
If anyone seriously doesn't get what was wrong with the above response, feel free to message me.
Obviously, ohio49er is looked to test boundaries, to see what he can get away with. I admit, I wanted to leave room for people to work things out, to not be heavy-handed. I thought there was hope that adults could avoid degenerating into shit like the above. My bad. I'll stop being nice.
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