Trump to recognize Jerusalem as Israeli Capital... Dec 21, 2017 18:09:33 GMT -5
Post by robeiae on Dec 21, 2017 18:09:33 GMT -5
Dec 21, 2017 17:39:49 GMT -5 @cassandraw said:How is this working out?
IMO, not well.
Lol. You're comparing a few weeks of outrage--mostly from raging anti-Semites--to over 60 years of failure to resolve the situation?
Israel in in control of the territory where it claims to be sovereign. That remains the primary test, which most everyone seems to recognize as long as we're not talking about Israel.
You and c.e. might think this is a non-controversial thing for Israel to claim and us to draw a line in the sand over. But in fact, it IS controversial because most of the world, including a lot of us here, do not think Israel has sovereignty over all that it is claiming sovereignty to.
I don't disagree. But it's not as nearly as obnoxious as the resolution that was voted on, that is yet another acknowledgement that anti-Semitism is a-okay, is a valid world view whose proponents need to be respected (except of course when they're acting out in Europe or the US; then they can be condemned).
And the fucking "taking names" thing? How was that anything other tgan stupid and obnoxious?
By the way, we've been kissing Saudi Arabia's ass for an awfully long time. And we're kissing Russia's now. There's a lot of artful dodging we do for diplomatic reasons But it's only when it comes to Israel that it's worth becoming a gun-waving cowboy.
Well, like your failed East Berlin argument, you're making incorrect assumptions. For instance, imo our failure to support Chechen independence was a major error. And as far as I'm concerned, the Saudis should have been third on the list following 9-11, after Afghanistan and Pakistan.