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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 20:03:50 GMT -5
The other alternative is that she staggered blindly into a dark apartment without turning on a light--and then fired a shot into the dark. Which also staggers belief.
Not to mention what the neighbors overheard.
It's bizarre, and frankly any explanation that would make it simply a tragic mistake (as opposed to a deliberate crime) makes no sense.
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Post by robeiae on Sept 12, 2018 20:46:27 GMT -5
If we go by the neighbors, she basically shot him at the door when he opened it, so there'd be no chance for her to see anything in the apartment until after the fact.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 21:23:26 GMT -5
If we go by the neighbors, she basically shot him at the door when he opened it, so there'd be no chance for her to see anything in the apartment until after the fact. Well, yeah, but (1) then her story is definitely total bullshit. He wasn't a dark shadowy figure in the apartment, as she claimed. She was looking him right in the face. Not to mention she said the door was ajar. (2) unless she had her gun out and in her hand (and, um, that brings up the question of why), there must have been some short interval during which she pulled out the gun. During which he was doing...what? Standing there waiting to be shot? Why did he apparently say nothing before "Why did you do that?" (Like, say, "don't shoot!") (3) What kind of burglar answers the door when someone says "let me in"? And why didn't this occur to her? (4) she's out there pounding on a door she allegedly thinks is hers, saying "let me in", but thinking no one was there...and still she failed to notice the bright red doormat. Yeah, no, there's just no way to slice this so it makes sense as a "oopsy, I thought it was my apartment" story.
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Post by maxinquaye on Sept 13, 2018 6:49:50 GMT -5
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Post by nighttimer on Sept 13, 2018 11:17:34 GMT -5
You are correct. Kaepernick's protest was always about police brutality and was never about the flag or anthem and if someone like Trump tries to tell you otherwise they are lying. This is The Colline Gate's representative of the Black community speaking and I approved this message.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 21:51:05 GMT -5
You know what pisses me off? This pisses me off.
Who. The fuck. Cares. if he had pot in his apartment? FFS.
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Post by gaild on Sept 14, 2018 2:57:27 GMT -5
Who knows? It wouldn't surprise me if the cops planted it there. I see a massive lawsuit coming here. Maybe the police department are trying for a 'probable cause' defense. Though I don't know how they'd spin that. Any which way, this is culpable homicide, at very least.
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Post by Vince524 on Sept 14, 2018 6:06:31 GMT -5
1st off, as an active crime scene, do they need a warrant to look around?
2nd off, even if he had a gun stashed away in a drawer, how would that even be relevant? It wouldn't be out in the open where she could claim she walked in, he had a gun and that's all she saw.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 7:29:08 GMT -5
Having pot in your apartment is not grounds for shooting someone, last I checked.
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Post by robeiae on Sept 14, 2018 8:30:59 GMT -5
1st off, as an active crime scene, do they need a warrant to look around? Mark can correct me, but yes I think they do, for anything that's not in plain sight. But I don't think they'd have much trouble getting one, giving that it's an officer involved shooting. And assuming Guyger wasn't some sort of despised freak show to her fellow officers, it's not surprising that there'd be an attempt to help her, to find some sort of justification. That's nothing new. It's a problem, insofar as cops certainly get special treatment in this regard. It's an even bigger problem when the cops doing the investigation manufacture/plant evidence. But I think the Rangers are still in charge. I'd like to imagine their biases aren't as bad as the local PD. Still, it's pretty low to leak this kind of inconsequential stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 9:03:18 GMT -5
The fact that he had pot in the house in no way would provide justification for the shooting -- even if she hadn't already put out a mess of a story that made no mention of any attempt at an off-duty drug bust.
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Post by robeiae on Sept 14, 2018 9:15:05 GMT -5
I agree, I'm not suggesting that it would, which is why I called it "inconsequential stuff."
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Post by markesq on Sept 14, 2018 9:38:27 GMT -5
I think I may have told y'all, that my new role here at the DA's office is with the Civil Rights Unit, which investigates and prosecutes use of force cases involving peace officers. I won't be able to ever comment on the substance of stories, or give my opinions, which is frustrating because you know I have them! I pop in though to say that in cases like this, a search warrant will always be obtained, and given the situation not hard to get.
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Post by nighttimer on Sept 14, 2018 15:06:36 GMT -5
This is what a smear job looks like. This is how you dirty up the victim and make his killer look more justified in killing him. This is the same foul, ugly RACIST shit White cops have been doing to Black people and getting away with since fucking forever. Consider:There's nothing bizarre about this case. Nothing weird, nothing odd, nothing strange. Everything will add up just fine. You wait and see. Then tell me again this has nothing to do with race.
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Post by Christine on Sept 14, 2018 18:58:13 GMT -5
"Peace officers." LOL It's not clear what actually transpired in this particular case, but it's crystal clear how the blue line rallies around their own and how willingly they'll use racist tropes to do so. "Scary menacing dark shadow," my ass. And oh look! Drugs! Fuck every last one of these fucking fuckwads. This young man was an accountant, FFS. At PWC, FFS. He was a singer. He sang. He had a beautiful voice. He was a leader. He did volunteer work.(Dallas News) This whole clusterfuck falls squarely within the Kaepernick zone. Racism is alive and well, and if you're splitting hairs at this point, you're not part of the solution, to put it kindly.
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