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Post by Optimus on Jan 6, 2021 16:40:56 GMT -5
Watching this bullshit unfold right now. I'm really surprised - and somewhat disappointed - that the Secret Service and Capitol Police didn't open fire once theses dumb hillbillies breached the doors and started breaking windows, let alone invaded the Senate floor. I did see where they had guns drawn on the inside of the House floor aimed at the doors. I would not have shed a single tear if they'd opened fire.
Also saw that one woman got shot in the chest. If she was an innocent bystander, then that's a tragedy and my thoughts are with her. If she was one of these domestic terrorist fucknuts, then I have zero sympathy.
I realize these lunatics don't represent all conservatives/GOP, but it's ironic how many of them complain (and rightly so) that the "peaceful protests" this summer were violent riots that should've been stamped down on hard by law enforcement, yet many of those same people are doing the exact same in DC today.
I hope every one of those arrested today is charged with sedition (because what they're doing literally is sedition) but I know that's probably just wishful thinking on my part.
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Post by prozyan on Jan 6, 2021 16:56:21 GMT -5
Well, according to El Jefe, they should all get at least 10 years in prison:
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Post by mikey on Jan 6, 2021 17:46:53 GMT -5
TPTB have had 4 years to get the rioter problem in the US under control. At this point, pearl clutching by the anti Trumpers over this DC trouble seems a little forced and more than a bit impotent.
Just one mans view from his barricaded house in se Portland.
Adding this: Shitting on 70 some odd million voters concerns over accurate vote counts was extremely moronic. It would have been OKAY to pander to these butt hurt groups with a "just to make sure" type of investigation.
As the saying go's "if you got nothing to hide..."
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Post by robeiae on Jan 6, 2021 18:30:34 GMT -5
A part of me thinks this is, on balance, a good thing because it's making a lot of pro-Trump people reconsider their support and making it crystal clear that Trump is not about any actual ideology, at all, just about himself.
And I pity all the dimwits who gotten taken in by tools like Lin Wood, Sidney Powell, and of course Trump, because they believed these three grifters actually cared about election integrity.
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Post by Optimus on Jan 6, 2021 18:46:31 GMT -5
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Post by mikey on Jan 6, 2021 19:47:26 GMT -5
Seems odd to me that we don't have a name yet for the woman who got shot.
The media getting a little slow on the information sharing perhaps?
I would think that the Trump supporters would be shouting her name from the roof tops by now.
Also, where is BLM/antifa in all this? Did they all decide to stay home today? Sometimes I wish I had a TV.
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Post by mikey on Jan 6, 2021 22:23:39 GMT -5
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Post by Optimus on Jan 6, 2021 23:22:03 GMT -5
I have little sympathy. If you look at her Twitter page, it's nothing but tweets and retweets of looney conspiracy theories spun by Lin Wood, Qanon, Trump and the sycophants who constantly try to verbally give his ballsack a daily tongue bath. twitter.com/Ashli_BabbittPerfect example is the last thing she posted (retweet) before she engaged in domestic terrorism: Also this:
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Post by Optimus on Jan 7, 2021 0:10:26 GMT -5
Fascinating look from inside the stupidity rabbit hole:
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Post by prozyan on Jan 7, 2021 3:26:11 GMT -5
I agree here. While I won't celebrate any pointless loss of life (not implying that Opty is), I have to believe a trite saying holds true here: Play stupid games and you win stupid prizes. I also agree with Opty's earlier sentiment about the use of force. I think the security detail at the Capitol would have been justified in shooting every person that illegally breached the building.
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Post by robeiae on Jan 7, 2021 9:30:23 GMT -5
I'm okay with using force to stop people breaking in to the capitol building. I don't know about shooting everyone, however. Because I don't see the capitol as sacrosanct to such a degree that special rules apply. I mean, if people are okay with shooting people who break into the capitol building during a protest/riot, then the same rules should apply across the board: shoot the people breaking into Target and other businesses during a protest/riot.
And while I don't have sympathy per se for people like the woman who was shot, I do think that her death is a sad thing, insofar as it's pointless. And all of her fellow Trumpers are complicit in her death, as is Trump, of course.
Beyond that...what were the capitol police thinking...or rather NOT thinking? Talk about ill-prepared.
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Post by robeiae on Jan 7, 2021 9:54:36 GMT -5
I have little sympathy. If you look at her Twitter page, it's nothing but tweets and retweets of looney conspiracy theories spun by Lin Wood, Qanon, Trump and the sycophants who constantly try to verbally give his ballsack a daily tongue bath. twitter.com/Ashli_BabbittHer twitter page is unbelievably typical, when it comes to the rabid MAGA twitter crowd. She's got 16k followers. Why? She doesn't offer up anything worth reading or seeing. She's mostly just retweeting bullshit. And all that bullshit she's reading and retweeting, it got her to actually get on a plane and fly to DC because she actually thought--it would seem--that she was going to be a part of something important and historic. She actually thought she was important, that her social media activity mattered, that she was making a difference. She's a fucking Air Force vet, for Christ's sake. She doesn't look like a complete moron. One would think she'd have some ability to spot bullshit, to know when she was getting played for a sucker. But no, she was taken in by the crap, taken in in full. I wonder what would happen if all social media was shut down for 30 days or so. Seriously. Because it seems to me that a good chunk of the population simply shouldn't be allowed to have internet access or cable/satellite TV. They should go back to getting their news from local TV stations and newspapers, or just not getting any news at all and thereby returning to a state of blissful ignorance.
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Post by prozyan on Jan 7, 2021 10:25:01 GMT -5
shooting people who break into the capitol building during a protest/riot, then the same rules should apply across the board: shoot the people breaking into Target and other businesses during a protest/riot. I'll agree with this with one caveat: If Congress isn't in session. I believe having the legislature in session and an mob descending on the Capitol, possibly armed and with hostile intent elevates this from typical riot to a possible act of terrorism and a direct attack on the government of the United States.
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Post by robeiae on Jan 7, 2021 10:30:48 GMT -5
Fair point.
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Post by robeiae on Jan 7, 2021 10:38:52 GMT -5
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