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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 9:37:47 GMT -5
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Mar 4, 2017 10:49:01 GMT -5
Really? You don't believe him?
I am aghast.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 10:57:25 GMT -5
THIS DUDE HAS OUR NUCLEAR CODES!
I need to go look at more adorable Bush/Obama photos for a while. Maybe I'll feel better.
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Mar 4, 2017 11:49:24 GMT -5
If he enters codes like he spells you have nothing to worry about.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 13:01:02 GMT -5
If only we could count on that...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 13:09:49 GMT -5
This is the tweet that followed it, by the way. Sad.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 15:21:08 GMT -5
But seriously folks -- we have a current president, without any evidence at all, accusing a past president of acts he claims are criminal, calling him a "sick" and "bad" man. (I understand his basis for this is an article on Breitbart.)
Seriously, this is not okay. This is fucking disturbing. Go to his Twitter account to see the series of tweets. It's unhinged.
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Post by maxinquaye on Mar 4, 2017 17:15:59 GMT -5
THIS DUDE HAS OUR NUCLEAR CODES! I need to go look at more adorable Bush/Obama photos for a while. Maybe I'll feel better. There are Justin Trudeau shirtless pics out there on the net. Just letting you know... Soon I'm sure there will be Emmanuel Macron pics when (if,,, but it's fairly certain) he becomes the French president. There will lots of hunky male leaders in a while to compensate for the tangerine tit. I think I'd better go lie down and think about Sessions.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 17:23:53 GMT -5
Oh, shirtless Justin Trudeau pictures... I may need to start a thread for that.
I always used to scoff at people who shrieked about moving to Canada. But now that we have a tribble-head and they have Trudeau, Canada is looking better and better.
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Post by nighttimer on Mar 4, 2017 18:42:47 GMT -5
Here's the full tweet for those of us who don't follow President Pussygrabber.Nothing that comes out of this bad (or sick) guy's mouth surprises or shocks me. Whatever he sees on Fox and whatever Steve Bannon tells him is the headline on Breitbart is what he believes. Obama tapped Trump's phone prior to the election? Then why didn't he drop the dirt he dug up on Donald before the election? Whatever comes out of Trump's filthy sewer is a damned lie. He is a complete psychopath.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 19:21:04 GMT -5
This is not just another batshit tweet.
Even if Trump's allegation were true (and I do not for one second believe it is), it is simply NOT something you allege without offering evidence of it. ESPECIALLY not the current president -- and ESPECIALLY about the president who just left office. Let's take aside the "bad" "sick" name-calling -- illegal wiretapping is a major fucking accusation.
This can't just slide. He either needs to put up his basis for this shit, or he needs to admit all he's got is Breitbart. And assuming it's the latter, he needs his ass raked over the coals.
We can't have this shit in the oval office. This is not the goddamn Jerry Springer show.
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The fact that he followed it up with a petty tweet about The Apprentice adds an extra level of grotesqueness. To him, this is all just another staged reality TV show.
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Post by maxinquaye on Mar 4, 2017 19:47:34 GMT -5
I don't particularly rate the Democrats running around shouting 'Russians!' at everything that moves, so I'm not going to get into that.
However, I can accept that Putin did want Donald Trump in the White House. Not because he wanted a puppet there. Putin is smart enough to know that it's impossible to control a much larger country like that. Unlike Donald Trump, he's not dumb. The first thing a competent Trump would do is to call Putin and say "You're my puppet now or we'll screw Russia up good."
Putin is also not the Übermanipulator that people want to paint him as. He's a good tactician but a lousy strategist. He's good at positioning to win single encounters, but he's lousy about winning in the long-term.
Case in point, Ukraine. He was adept enough to wrest Crimea out of Ukraine, as a short term win. However that earned him sanctions, a failing economy, and a need to feed the churn of Russian revanchism by winning wars. Otherwise there would have been unrest. So he got stuck in Syria, and that's turning out badly for him too.
Now he may have contributed to putting Trump in the White House, and I think that may be his most sound achievement, because what a chaotic USA will mean is that USA will be busy with in-fighting and won't interfere with Russian operations abroad. All Russia needed was a fool in the White House; a fool that would bring the Republic into disrepute and into chaos. As long as chaos reigns in Washington, there's one less worry for Putin on the world stage, and maybe he can extricate himself from his own strategic blunders elsewhere.
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Post by Vince524 on Mar 4, 2017 20:41:40 GMT -5
Hey Max!!!
Trump is easy to manipulate. He's all ego. No brains.
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Post by maxinquaye on Mar 5, 2017 7:50:01 GMT -5
Yeah, he is, Vince. But think on this. Once Trump is impeached and the US returns to normal, what then for US and Russian relations? What happens when the GOP will pivot to try to get out of the shadow of a Trump White House, and they'll have to defend their seats against Americans' fury about the perception that GOP and Trump made the US into a Russian puppet? I'm not saying that the US is, but that may be the perception.
It's another tactical win for Putin with a long-tail of strategic disasters.
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Post by Vince524 on Mar 5, 2017 9:27:37 GMT -5
Oh I agree, we're in a bad position. We were no matter who won, as Obama didn't treat Putin as a serious threat until he hacked John Podesta's email. Had Clinton won, she would probably have been just as bad, but no worse. (Maybe a little better.) However, she wouldn't be a lapdog.
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