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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 22:51:42 GMT -5
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Post by haggis on Oct 28, 2017 0:06:07 GMT -5
Manafort. Possibly Flynn. Too early for the others. That's next week.
Hopefully.
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Post by michaelw on Oct 28, 2017 1:14:23 GMT -5
I'm hoping for Putin.
But it's probably Manafort.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 8:42:09 GMT -5
Putin won't come until after Thanksgiving.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 8:50:46 GMT -5
heh, the "Frederick Douglass" account on Twitter:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 9:41:16 GMT -5
Meanwhile, on Fox News, Corey Lewandowski nails it. Take it away, Corey...
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Post by mikey on Oct 28, 2017 10:39:08 GMT -5
Who is being charged? Don't know What are the charges? Don't know When will we know? As a guess, next week sometime
Is this another leak? from the Mueller team? The click baityness of this story is disturbing considering how important the topic is. WTF is our government doing playing around with this leaking partial information and the the whole stay tuned for the rest of the story bs? Not very professional if you ask me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 10:54:46 GMT -5
Damn that Wall Street Journal and its click-bait red meat for liberals headlines...
It is an interesting question as to who leaked this. My inclination is to think that it was a very low-level person around the court. But there's also the possibility that it was a deliberate leak of the barest minimum info, made for reasons not yet apparent. It could be someone on the Meuller team, but the fact that a grand jury was involved opens up other possibilities.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 11:19:12 GMT -5
Damn that Wall Street Journal and its click-bait red meat for liberals headlines... It is an interesting question as to who leaked this. My inclination is to think that it was a very low-level person around the court. But there's also the possibility that it was a deliberate leak of the barest minimum info, made for reasons not yet apparent. It could be someone on the Meuller team, but the fact that a grand jury was involved opens up other possibilities. Another possibility is that the info was released by someone connected with the Trump admin who got a heads up about it. This last week or so, there's been a huge ramp-up on the part of Trump, Gorka, Stone, Hannity, Fox, Breitbart etc. to yell about year-old (at least) Clinton news, playing it up like it's a brand new explosive bombshell. I've noticed, has have others, that such noise often precedes big news that hurts the Trump administration. (It's a joke on twitter, every time Hannity et al. go batshit on Clinton, that bad news must be coming for someone close to Trump -- and in fact, it's a very reliable sign.) It sure as hell feels like a deliberate distraction. Back in the day, it was well-known that Trump often called tabloids himself to release stories, many of them fake, often pretending to be someone else. And Sean Spicer was in on the whole horrible Seth Rich thing. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if this and other leaks came from the Trump camp. Why? Perhaps so they can bellow about how it is the Mueller investigation that is the distraction, and the indictment is designed to cover up for Clinton, Comey, et al. Plus they can claim the leak proves Mueller is unprofessional.
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Post by mikey on Oct 28, 2017 12:28:48 GMT -5
Damn that Wall Street Journal and its click-bait red meat for liberals headlines... It is an interesting question as to who leaked this. My inclination is to think that it was a very low-level person around the court. But there's also the possibility that it was a deliberate leak of the barest minimum info, made for reasons not yet apparent. It could be someone on the Meuller team, but the fact that a grand jury was involved opens up other possibilities. Another possibility is that the info was released by someone connected with the Trump admin who got a heads up about it. This last week or so, there's been a huge ramp-up on the part of Trump, Gorka, Stone, Hannity, Fox, Breitbart etc. to yell about year-old (at least) Clinton news, playing it up like it's a brand new explosive bombshell. I've noticed, has have others, that such noise often precedes big news that hurts the Trump administration. (It's a joke on twitter, every time Hannity et al. go batshit on Clinton, that bad news must be coming for someone close to Trump -- and in fact, it's a very reliable sign.) It sure as hell feels like a deliberate distraction. Back in the day, it was well-known that Trump often called tabloids himself to release stories, many of them fake, often pretending to be someone else. And Sean Spicer was in on the whole horrible Seth Rich thing. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if this and other leaks came from the Trump camp. Why? Perhaps so they can bellow about how it is the Mueller investigation that is the distraction, and the indictment is designed to cover up for Clinton, Comey, et al. Plus they can claim the leak proves Mueller is unprofessional. CNN broke the story no? I see no reason to attempt to indict a johnny-come-lately for the originals behavior. The problem as I see it is not so much the media outlets, their job is to get readers at whatever cost. My problem with this and other stories is the "unnamed sources briefed on the matter" part. The Trump camp sounds plausible until one realizes CNN broke the story. I don't see the Trump camp going to CNN with a story. Another media group certainly, but not CNN. I really hope the leak did not come from the Mueller team.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 13:06:40 GMT -5
That's a point on the CNN thing.
On the other hand, I lean against thinking it's part of the Mueller team. Note that this happened after an event that necessitated going outside the team. You can't get an indictment with involving a grand jury, a judge, court staff...
ETA:
I served on a grand jury not long ago. Proceedings are supposed to be secret. But a shitload of people are necessarily involved, many of them regular citizens who might find it hard to resist telling someone. Lower level court staff could have overheard, or picked up enough info to make them suspect something was afoot.
For that matter, one tip from a janitor " hey, I just saw the Mueller team coming out of the courtroom and man, did they look pleased" would have been enough for a CNN reporter to start rummaging around for sources to confirm it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 17:06:10 GMT -5
This is fun -- Roger Stone's twitter meltdown after the news about the indictment broke was so over-the-top, Twitter suspended his account permanently. I only saw some of his crazy tweets (and they were crazy), but apparently he sent threats to a bunch of CNN reporters, which, alas, I missed.
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Someone took screenshots of a few of his crazy tweets, but this is just a sampling:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 17:17:48 GMT -5
Huh. I wonder if 'ol Roger might get indicted?
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Post by mikey on Oct 28, 2017 17:43:09 GMT -5
All in all, pretty funny stuff
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 17:50:28 GMT -5
I have to admit, I really enjoy epic Twitter meltdowns. I'm a bad person.
And that was a meltdown for the ages. He just completely lost it.
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