Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 18:18:05 GMT -5
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 18:48:39 GMT -5
AND this:
So. Damn. Exhausting.
ETA:
Yes, I know, every one of these is worthy of its own thread. But I'm wiped. I admit it, this administration is wearing me out.
|
|
|
Post by celawson on Feb 28, 2018 20:12:22 GMT -5
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 20:48:53 GMT -5
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 21:00:11 GMT -5
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 21:20:25 GMT -5
On the Ben Carson story $31,000 dining room table story, let's quote more of the NY Times story you cited, c.e. -- And from my Guardian story: Someone's fibbing, for sure. I'm not as ready as you are to believe it can't possibly be Carson -- especially since he is keeping the table, and thinks it is a perfectly reasonable price. I'm strongly suspecting this is fake news, as far as Carson's involvement. Carson came from a humble background and is working in an office that is supposed to help the poor. And he's a decent man, no matter how much you disagree with his politics or think he's not sane. This just sounds fishy to me. Your take is that he came from a poor background and Trump saw fit to put him into an office (for which he was utterly unqualified) that is supposed to help the poor, and therefore he can be neither extravagant nor dishonest nor greedy, and therefore it must be fake news? ETA: Here, let's say that the HUD woman's allegations were a lie and this particular piece of news is therefore untrue. I'm not convinced by anything you've said, since, hello, it's just your gut talking again, but let's say it is. It's possible. Sometimes news turns out to be wrong, mistakes happen, news sources lie. It does happen. It has always happened. It's unfortunate, but there it is. Unlike you, I don't think it happens that often, at least with the mainstream sources, and when it does, they issue corrections. The thing is, you think it's basically ALL fake news. Jesus, the vast right wing conspiracy against the Clintons was NOTHING to this -- lordy, every newspaper and news show in the country except Fox News (well, except for Shep Smith and Chris Wallace, who are obviously spies from the Deep State), Infowars, the Russian Times, and Breitbart have it in for Trump and are determined to bury him with hateful fake news! Why are they all so mean? Why do they hate him so? How can they bring themselves to lie so constantly when the country is in such awesome shape? And how the hell could prominent so-called conservatives be so totally traitorous as to join in this terrible outcry, especially when mindbogglingly they otherwise continue to espouse conservative views? It's against their own interests! Did the Deep State get to them all?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 23:05:13 GMT -5
Jesus, yet another piece of breaking news today -- Looks like Hicks will be talking to Mueller:
Hicks quitting and talking to Mueller...
...is fine. No problem. Not a big deal, at all. Or a witch hunt.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 0:46:24 GMT -5
Forgot this -- after Trump ripped the hell out of Jeff Sessions, he, Rod Rosenstein and Noel Francisco made a point of dining out together:
Well. That's it for Wednesday. Wonder what Thursday's gonna look like?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 16:54:14 GMT -5
Aaaaaand...it's looking like McMaster is out.
|
|
|
Post by michaelw on Mar 2, 2018 6:21:52 GMT -5
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 10:41:38 GMT -5
The market reaction is ridiculously overblown. I'm sure you're right, actually. Market is gonna market. And it was a bit unfair of me to focus on that (which I kinda admitted) -- though, that said, I do think investors are feeling a bit "WTF" right now, and likely wouldn't be, or not to that degree, if we didn't have a president coming out with crazy pronouncements that would suck for the economy. I know I feel skittish. But what, IMO, is not overblown is that those tariffs are a bad idea, and his statement that trade wars are good and easy to win is just ludicrous. ETA: I mean, as a person with a stock portfolio, I'm normally a "ride it out" kind of person, making adjustments periodically. Indeed, I still am. But when you have a president who comes out of the blue with yuuuuuge pronouncements that, if implemented, would sucker punch businesses (or artificially inflate them or otherwise have large, unwise, possibly unintended consequences), one is tempted to say "yeah, this gamble is getting just a wee bit too risky and maybe it's time to step out for a bit." I really have just no freaking idea what this guy is gonna propose next, and what Congress is gonna let him get away with. My confidence in our system of checks and balances has eroded considerably during this last year.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 10:59:43 GMT -5
By the way, if the tariff thing or any other portion of my omnibus thread turns into a real discussion, I'll split it off into its own thread. I did the "oh, all this other shit happened" thing partly as a joke, mostly because I'm just so damn exhausted after so many days of multiple things happening each of which would be front page news for days in any other administration. Wednesday was just freaking insane.
I mean, Trump's stupid voting commission already feels like a distant memory -- and I went to law school with Kris Kobach, for pete's sake, so that had a certain personal feel for me. Rob Porter who? Oh, yeah, I remember the Mooch!
But seriously, all of these topics and so many others really deserve their own threads, if only one could keep up with them all. I know people -- people with graduate degrees -- who have simply stopped following the news.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 11:26:56 GMT -5
I am honestly finding it harder and harder to figure out how to react to some of this stuff. By the time I finish saying "whoaaa, WTF, what?!", the situation is likely to have reversed itself, and may then do a backwards flip and a trople axle.
In a normal administration, things go along in a fairly hundrum fashion. I'm generally seeing what's coming, or at least, understanding it. Occasionally the president comes out with something that surprises me. I catch my breath, then say "okay, he likely has some reason for saying/doing this, and even if it is a truly disastrous idea, it likely won't get far because checks and balances." I'd look into it, decide whether or not I thought it was a good or bad idea, but by and large, with some big exceptions, I pretty much rolled with stuff.
Here, though -- I just can't keep up. I don't know what he means or doesn't mean. I have no confidence there's any solid basis for anything he comes out with--indeed, it's clear there often is none. I have no confidence at all someone would block the door and stop him if he had a truly atrocious idea. It's clear they wouldn't. And by the time I get my bearings, it's almost certain he'll be off on some new craziness.
ETA:
I can already see c.e.lawson typing "see, you're just all overreacting and being unfair to Trump! I'm sure he has a good reason for what he's doing and saying!"
Maybe the various pundits declaring the tariffs would a disaster ARE wrong. and Trump is right. It could happen. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
But how can I POSSIBLY have any faith that the guy has good, wise, considered reasons for what he does and says when, e.g., in 24 hours he goes from a staunch pro-NRA stance to "fuck it, we'll ban assault rifles, confiscate guns, and screw due process!" to "okay, great meeting with NRA. No gun control!" And that's just one example, plucked from yesterday. There are tons of others. When you look at it as a whole instead of cherry-picking, it's simply bewildering. There is no reason for me to trust for a second that he is carefully considering what he does, or that any of it is a good idea, or that he won't change his mind when he turns on Fox & Friends.
How can I possibly nod my head to "but he has good, smart people around him!" when they are dropping like flies -- quitting, getting security clearances revoked, getting fired, acting crazy, being indicted and pleading guilty? We have never seen anything like this in another administration.
ETA:
Some of you might recall that I started off after the election from the standpoint of "Yikes, well, this isn't good, but okay, maybe most of the election stuff was bluster and anyway, checks and balances so it won't be all that bad. I'll hope for the best." I did not start off from "jesus christ, our republic is doooooommmed!"
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 13:51:37 GMT -5
Shit, he has no business being President.... I need to learn how to stop worrying and love the bomb.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 14:07:03 GMT -5
|
|