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Post by robeiae on Aug 20, 2018 18:00:11 GMT -5
I seriously think we need to consider forbidding elected officials--at every level--from using social media, particularly twitter. Aside from the barrage of Trump's trolling and outright lies, there are things like this: Sounds bad, right? The heartless bastards at ICE grabbed a poor illegal immigrant when he was taking his pregnant wife to the hospital. And yet: www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Mexican-State-Confirms-ICE-Detainee-Wanted-for-Homicide-491282351.htmlA sitting Congressperson simply should not be doing this, in my view. And make no mistake, he's far from alone in this regard. This has been going on for a while by Congesspersons from both sides of the aisle. |
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Post by Optimus on Aug 20, 2018 18:08:14 GMT -5
If it's any comfort, most people in the comments seem to be giving him shit about it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 18:14:44 GMT -5
(The guy might have been wanted for homicide. But even so, isn't the humane thing to do is escort the woman in labor to the hospital, get her checked in, and then deal with the husband? The woman had to drive herself the rest of the way, which seems ...really bad and unnecessary, and indeed could have caused an accident.)
As to the subject of the thread: I'm not sure I would advocate forbidding government officials from using social media (something about that bothers me) but I do agree many of them misuse it.
I follow a lot of government officials online. It's useful if you want to follow work that they are doing, legislation they are sponsoring, etc.
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Post by Optimus on Aug 20, 2018 20:27:28 GMT -5
(The guy might have been wanted for homicide. But even so, isn't the humane thing to do is escort the woman in labor to the hospital, get her checked in, and then deal with the husband? The woman had to drive herself the rest of the way, which seems ...really bad and unnecessary, and indeed could have caused an accident.) Quite true in general, but in this specific situation, I don't believe she was actually in labor, was she? I might be wrong, though. From what I understand she was going in for a scheduled C-section. It'd be a pretty ironic statistical coincidence if she happened to go into labor at the exact time she was going in for a schedule C-section. But, yeah, if she'd actually been in labor, leaving her to drive herself would've been a dick move. But, given the actual circumstances, I don't agree that not allowing him to go to the hospital was somehow inhumane. How much leeway are the authorities supposed to give a fugitive wanted for homicide? If they were arresting him for simple pot possession or something minor like that, then I could probably understand if the cops escorted them to the hospital so they could get her checked in first. But, I'd really be scratching my head if they extended the same kid-glove treatment to a wanted killer. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 21:09:02 GMT -5
Ah, I missed the c-section, perhaps because I can't help but feel tremendously bad for this woman, regardless. She and the poor kid are in for a rough haul.
But yeah, gov't reps in particular have a responsibility to check stories out before they tweet. And they too often don't. Of course, given that the guy in the oval office spews utter garbage 24/7, things are unlikely to improve soon.
On the bright side, though, when reps screw up on Twitter, gobs of people tend to comment immediately and tell them so.
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Post by robeiae on Aug 20, 2018 21:51:40 GMT -5
See, I don't think that's a "bright side" at all. Because 1) it turns into an endless pile-on immediately that just dirties up twitter as every Tom, Dick, and Harry thinks they're super-clever for identifying the error (the real point of the second Onion bit that I put up earlier), and 2) it makes the government look like it's run by assholes (and yeah, Trump is the biggest problem in this regard by a yuuge margin, which is why I noted him immediately).
I don't really think we could forbid them from using social media, regardless. And I do think there's value in having them be able to communicate real info on real issues. What we really need is for various government bodies to police themselves, in this regard.
As to the woman in this story, I don't feel anything for her right now, because I don't know all of the details. It's certainly possible that she's always been aware of the murder charge, that she came here with him to get away from the same.
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Post by prozyan on Aug 21, 2018 6:01:24 GMT -5
I'd be in favor of banning social media.
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Post by Don on Aug 21, 2018 8:44:35 GMT -5
I think politicians having instant access to a keyboard is a wonderful thing. It allows them to demonstrate their true intelligence and concern for their constituency, without being filtered through handlers. It's such a great way for them to shoot themselves in the foot. If only they would manage to stick their feet in their mouths before firing...
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Post by markesq on Aug 21, 2018 14:58:48 GMT -5
As to the woman in this story, I don't feel anything for her right now, because I don't know all of the details. It's certainly possible that she's always been aware of the murder charge, that she came here with him to get away from the same.
Yeah, that was my thought. Pretty unlikely she knew nothing about it, much more likely they were on the lam together. Poor kid, though.
And definitely no cause to give the arrestee ANY leeway or courtesy as far as going to the hospital, not from a LE perspective. Way too much danger for those around him/them, and for the cops, too.
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Post by maxinquaye on Aug 21, 2018 16:08:32 GMT -5
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