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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 22:31:28 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 23:08:39 GMT -5
An amazing tribute from John Kerry --
ETA: a two-fer -- one from Madeleine Albright, too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2018 8:25:35 GMT -5
Sorry, I know I've posted a ton of McCain tributes and articles, but I must post this one. This writer does a stunning job of placing the reader in John McCain's shoes upon being captured by the North Vietnamese and his subsequent refusals to take the easy way out of a horrifying situation. www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/david-foster-wallace-on-john-mccain-the-weasel-twelve-monkeys-and-the-shrub-194272/Right there is a snapshot of why I respected the hell out of McCain and could never call him a sellout even when he voted in ways I didn't like. This might not be a man who always does what I'd like him to do, but this is not a man who does the easy thing just because it is expedient. And respecting this as I do is exactly why I cannot respect those who denigrate him before he's cold. This is a giant of a man. I think it's a bit of a litmus test of a person whether can he recognize what is amazing and heroic about McCain or is too blocked by partisan pettiness to see it. I've been really happy to see so many politicians I respect pass this test. It's been really beautiful to me to see those from right and left join hands to pay sincere tribute to him. (There's also been some fake posturing, and some just grotesque ugliness and pettiness, but I'm simply instablocking everyone on social media who engages in it. They are just too small to bother with.)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2018 9:00:56 GMT -5
I'm sorry, another splendid article. www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/remembering-john-mccain/559247/More at the link, and well worth your time. I am really, really hoping both Obama and Bush, but Obama in particular, accede to McCain's wish that they speak at his funeral. I think it's truly a beautiful and wonderful thing that McCain made this last, incredibly graceful reach across the aisle, and it would be a beautiful and wonderful thing if Obama agreed. I am betting he will.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2018 11:29:40 GMT -5
Don't play gotcha with Johnny McCain (my fellow poets will love this) -- read the article as well as the clips from the tweet:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2018 15:27:25 GMT -5
c.e. asked in another thread who on the Democratic I'd like to see run in 2020. I'm still mulling, but I have one suggestion, if Texas rejects him for Ted Cruz: Beto O'Rourke. Why do I mention that in this thread? Here's why:
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(There are other reasons I like Beto, but that one is the only one relevant to this thread. And I submit it's a biggie -- someone who can take time out from his rally not to tear down someone from the other party, but to eulogize him for the values he represented. He gave another great speech recently on the protesting football players, but that's for another thread. Beto is class.)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 13:14:39 GMT -5
How Vietnam has reacted to John McCain's death: In another thread, Amadan , you criticized McCain for forgiving George Bush for some ugly attacks on the campaign trail. Hell, I don't think I would have forgiven him. But if you consider that McCain was able to get past his torture to actively work for a better relationship with his former captors... And he didn't hesitate to criticize and oppose the Bush administration -- notably, on torture. I see his attacks on Trump the same way -- he seemed to blow off Trump jeering at his own war record and disabilites, but can't forgive what he sees as Trump's attacks on/dangers to others and on values he saw as important. Potato, potahto -- I guess you see a guy who grovels to power, and I see a guy who, in context, though cantankerous as hell, is above grudges when they are merely personal to him and is more interested in the greater good, and doesn't hesitate to buck power when he thinks it's right. I am not that person myself. But I gotta admire it. I didn't always agree with where McCain spoke up and didn't speak up, but I agreed often enough -- and damn, the guy had style. And like I said, his valor in Vietnam alone was enough to earn him my ungrudging admiration.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 13:34:48 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 13:42:35 GMT -5
Biden was asked to speak at McCain's Phoenix memorial service.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 15:06:09 GMT -5
Wow. Elizabeth Warren's tribute is...lovely. Really lovely. It's several posts long. Click on the link to get the whole thread.
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Post by nighttimer on Aug 27, 2018 16:16:30 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 17:18:25 GMT -5
I enjoyed that, too, nighttimer. And seriously, ffs -- McCain served 30 years in the Senate (and that's taking aside that he's a war hero). OF COURSE he gets the flag at half-mast -- any senator would.
Once again, Trump forgot that the White House is the people's house, not his -- and that the office of the presidency is simply not about his personal grudges.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 17:29:45 GMT -5
A tribute from Tammy Duckworth:
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BTW, Tammy is another one I'm keeping my eye on as future presidential material. She's pretty awesome.
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Also, she has a totally awesome name. This country DESERVES a President Duckworth.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 17:52:28 GMT -5
Okay, this might just be my favorite McCain anecdote ever:
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Post by Vince524 on Aug 27, 2018 19:08:50 GMT -5
I don't wish it hurt him. I hope it killed him.
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