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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 21:26:00 GMT -5
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Post by Don on Feb 26, 2017 5:15:59 GMT -5
It's about damned time the relationship between the press and the rulers becomes adversarial again. They've been BBFs for way too long. Trump apparently learned nothing from Nixon's downfall. A pox on the press for being lapdogs for decades, and not standing up to their masters until they were kicked to the curb. Maybe this will bring back the long-dormant school of investigative journalism. The unintended consequences of his ascension to the throne just keep getting better and better. ETA: This feed is horribly slow (load the whole thing before viewing) and the video's eight years old, but it still makes an important point. Perhaps ProleFeed will resurface now that there's a Republican in the White House.  "Perhaps if Nixon had invited the press corps to a barbecue at his estate and gotten to know them on a personal basis, there might never have been such a thing as Deep Throat." |
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Post by celawson on Feb 26, 2017 11:12:35 GMT -5
I think it's a good move on Trump's part. He would look hypocritical if he went, and it would either be a bloodbath or fake fake fake. I don't get the point of it, anyway. This way, he looks like he believes he has more important things to do. Which he does.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 12:37:39 GMT -5
Or it might be a chance for him to show he understands the importance of our fourth estate after all, that he has a sense of humor about himself, and that he is more like Reagan than Nixon.
Of course, none of those things are true, so perhaps it is best he doesn't go.
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Post by celawson on Feb 26, 2017 14:37:11 GMT -5
Well, we know he's not more like Reagan than Nixon, haha. He's not either of them. And I don't know what's so important about this shindig, anyway. Is it really important for the POTUS to cozy up to the press in a Hollywood-style lavish party? I think the POTUS should do his job, the press should do theirs (and more objectively), and let's just move on.
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Post by Amadan on Feb 26, 2017 23:16:56 GMT -5
I'm okay with Trump saying "Let's be honest, we hate each other."
I'm less okay with him wanting to actually destroy the press.
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Post by michaelw on Feb 26, 2017 23:26:48 GMT -5
I'm okay with Trump saying "Let's be honest, we hate each other." I'm less okay with him wanting to actually destroy the press. Ditto. |
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Post by poetinahat on Feb 28, 2017 0:16:44 GMT -5
Trump always looks like he has more important things to do. Trouble is, he always looks like he has no idea what they are, much less having any intention of doing them. He looks like the undergrad who's been partying all semester, and on the eve of the final exam, he's headed out to another massive kegger. He knows his getting away with it pisses you off, and you're going to judge the hell out of him for it - and that amuses him, because he knows exams don't matter for him. He's going to get away with it, and you're not. But, back to business: These bits from the Wikipedia entry for WHCA seem especially juicy right now (bolding mine): ETA: Because it's Wikipedia, I looked at the revision history; this entry's been edited fifty times in the past three days! However, the quotes I cite were there on October 31, so I presume they've been there all along since then. |
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Post by robeiae on Feb 28, 2017 7:59:40 GMT -5
It's about damned time the relationship between the press and the rulers becomes adversarial again. They've been BBFs for way too long. Trump apparently learned nothing from Nixon's downfall. A pox on the press for being lapdogs for decades, and not standing up to their masters until they were kicked to the curb. Maybe this will bring back the long-dormant school of investigative journalism. In general, I agree. There's also way too much overlap in relationships between the Fourth Estate and the government, imo. That said, the Correspondents' Dinner was set up to be the exception to the adversarial relationship. Unfortunately, it has become emblematic of the lack of such a relationship. But in Trump's case, it actually makes sense for him to attend, I think. |
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Post by robeiae on Feb 28, 2017 8:02:58 GMT -5
ETA: Because it's Wikipedia, I looked at the revision history; this entry's been edited fifty times in the past three days! However, the quotes I cite were there on October 31, so I presume they've been there all along since then. Tangent: I think it will be interesting to see how much editing happens on Wikipedia with political stuff like this during Trump's time in office. I have a hunch that there's going to be some records set in this regard. |
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Post by nighttimer on Feb 28, 2017 12:15:01 GMT -5
It's a dick move by a dick president and should come as no surprise to no one, least of all the White House correspondents.
From Day One and before, Trump has made it as an obvious as an unflushed toilet how much he hates the press. They should get the clue and hate him back.
The White House Correspondents dinner has always been a time for the press and the president to set aside their differences and for one night, break bread, tell jokes, and just relax. That's not how Trump rolls. Sean Spicer, his press secretary treats the correspondents like unruly children. Steve Bannon says they are "the opposition party." Donald Trump says they are the enemy.
When someone tells you who they are, believe them. Trump is telling the press he hates their stinking guts. They should recognize that and respond in kind.
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