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Post by Don on Apr 13, 2017 4:56:33 GMT -5
"What's good for General Bullmoose is good for the USA!" Another fine example of government standing athwart progress, screaming "STOP!!!" His rationale? What about Americans across the country who, unlike him, would prefer to make productive use of their time on the airplane to access and analyze data or keep in touch with loved ones? If a case can be made that this is a safety issue, then make it. If not, where is the rationale for forcing this choice on every person who purchases a plane ticket? Are airlines incapable of weighing the costs and benefits of offering this service and making a decision that will maximize customer satisfaction, and therefore their profits? Is there no possibility that they could find a way to service both those who "value a moment of quiet at 30,000 feet" and those who'd prefer to go on with their lives as they travel instead of being spam in a can? They're incapable of adding "quiet class" to "business class" and "tourist class?" What about the hush hood manufacturers and subvocalization microphone manufacturers who will never ever ply their trade or employ anyone because their solutions are never allowed to see the light of day? Is an edict declaring an end to the discussion really the way to move society forward?
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Post by robeiae on Apr 13, 2017 6:58:17 GMT -5
I think public restrooms should all have cell-phone disablers that end and prevent all phone calls the moment you enter.
I wouldn't have a problem with people making phone calls on planes of the planes had a tiny sound-proof room where they would have to go. I think that would be fine.
I really don't want to sit next to some dipshit who spends the entire flight time on their phone, babbling about the minutiae of their everyday life to a series of friends.
Babies cry on flights and that can be annoying. But they can't control themselves.
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Post by Amadan on Apr 13, 2017 17:08:30 GMT -5
Gods, first I have to agree with Christine, now I agree with Don.
I hate dipshits who talk loudly on their cell phones too. But I hate them at restaurants, bars, theaters, and everywhere else, not just airplanes.
That doesn't mean the government should pass a law against dipshits talking on cell phones (tempting as the thought may be).
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Post by robeiae on Apr 13, 2017 17:18:40 GMT -5
I agree with that, really. I don't think there should be a law. But if airlines want to ban cell phone usage, I'm all for it. If people don't like it, they can take a bus.*
* The reverse is true: if planes don't ban cell phone usage and I don't like it, I can take a bus.
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Post by Don on Apr 14, 2017 3:03:39 GMT -5
Yeah, that's the idea. If some people want X and some people want Y, let the providers of X and Y work it out with the customers. Don't decree from on high that X is allowed and Y is not, simply because your preference is X.
That's the real definition of pro-choice.
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Post by robeiae on Apr 14, 2017 9:17:01 GMT -5
Cell phones in public restrooms is whole other animal. We really need some legislation and some bathroom police to put a stop to that.
Almost as bad is people talking on their cell phones while they're in line and placing an order in, say, Starbucks...
My ex-wife called me once from San Fran (she wasn't my ex at the time) and in the middle of talking to me she started to give her Starbucks order, so I hung up on her. In hindsight, maybe not my wisest choice.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 9:27:16 GMT -5
I think public restrooms should all have cell-phone disablers that end and prevent all phone calls the moment you enter. I wouldn't have a problem with people making phone calls on planes of the planes had a tiny sound-proof room where they would have to go. I think that would be fine. I really don't want to sit next to some dipshit who spends the entire flight time on their phone, babbling about the minutiae of their everyday life to a series of friends. Babies cry on flights and that can be annoying. But they can't control themselves. I'm here. I hate cell phones everywhere. But on planes, I absolutely cannot get away from the asshole with the phone. In bars, trains, restaurants, etc., I can move. Trains often have quiet cars, too. On a plane, I'm strapped into a metal tube and forbidden to move from my seat, held hostage to their one- sided inane bullshit conversation. Text. Or take a couple of hours away from your phone. No one NEEDS to make a call during a flight. I admit, I wrote letters and made phone calls about this one. Despise me if you must. ETA: When someone's "choice" gets in my freaking face, there my libertarian sympathies end. I'm all libertarian-y when it comes to free speech and such. No one is making me go listen to Milo Whozitface. Let him talk. Let morons go listen. I'll talk about what an idiot he is and we're all good. But strap me in a seat and force me to listen to him drone on for hours while flying over the Atlantic? Hell fucking no. There are times and places where people need to put the fucking phone away. Really, truly, you will survive. Try a nice book, or some music with headphones. ETA: There is also a safety justification. Assholes on cellphones do not listen to flight announcements. They miss the "strap in for turbulence" message while droning on about Aunt Betty's rheumatism, and end up sprawled in the aisle with a broken nose or smashing into a fellow passenger. And yeah, I know they might also be listening to music or talking to a fellow passenger. But we all know cell phone asswipes have a special brand of oblivion going on. idiots on cell phones get hit by cars in New York all the damn time. Idiots talking to their companion or listening to music, not so much.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 9:36:26 GMT -5
My ex-wife called me once from San Fran (she wasn't my ex at the time) and in the middle of talking to me she started to give her Starbucks order, so I hung up on her. In hindsight, maybe not my wisest choice. Sometimes, Rob, I have this terrible feeling we might get along in person...
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