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Post by maxinquaye on Jun 5, 2017 9:21:09 GMT -5
Whether left, right, or centrist - this Tweet by the Orange Oompa has riled up Londoners. As one put it, "our Prime Minister didn't log into Twitter after 9/11 to attack the New York Mayor for how he handled things".
I think the tweet was breathtakingly inappropriate.
ETA: I was unsure about whether this was US or International politics, so I put the thread here.
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Post by robeiae on Jun 5, 2017 9:26:33 GMT -5
I think it was, too.
At the same time, it's hardly out of the ordinary for Trump, as sad as that may be. Londoners have more important things to worry about, imo.
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Post by Christine on Jun 5, 2017 18:01:43 GMT -5
Whether left, right, or centrist - this Tweet by the Orange Oompa has riled up Londoners. As one put it, "our Prime Minister didn't log into Twitter after 9/11 to attack the New York Mayor for how he handled things". I think the tweet was breathtakingly inappropriate. ETA: I was unsure about whether this was US or International politics, so I put the thread here. This was the second tweet, too. The first one took the Mayor's words "no reason to be alarmed" out of context. (That phrase followed information about increased police presence to be expected.) It appears Trump used the terrorist attack to ridicule international leaders, stir up fear, rile up his base, and push his travel ban, all in one tweet. Londoners might have other stuff to worry about at the moment but Americans and the rest of the civilized world have time enough to collectively headdesk.
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Post by Amadan on Jun 6, 2017 9:37:07 GMT -5
It's another day ending in "y" so of course Trump tweeted something inappropriate and embarrassing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 12:06:44 GMT -5
incredibly inappropriate and just fucking wrong.
even if Trump had not been taking Khan out of context -- even if Khan was telling citizens of London not to panic over terrorism -- Khan would be right.
As a resident of NYC during and since the 9/11 attacks -- you CANNOT let yourself be paralyzed by fear of terrorists. You have to go on.
The unfortunate bottom line is, especially if you live in a city like London or New York, there's some chance of a terrorist attack. It's more likely you'll get hit by a car or die of a heart attack, but still -- it could happen, and it's likely they'll just keep finding new methods. You need to lift your chin and refuse to let fear dictate your life, as the citizens of London are doing now and as citizens of NYC did after 9/11.
FUCK Trump for trying to instigate additional fear and panic. FUCK him for choosing a time and way like this for tooting his partisan objectives. The only thing world leaders should have been doing in the wake of this attack is expressing and offering support.
ETA:
Heh. The firm I was working at on 9/11 may actually have taken the "life goes on" approach one step too far. At dawn on 9/12, the office manager sent everyone in the firm a message from the partnership saying that it was "business as usual -- we will expect you in the office today."
Now. If this had been an attack like the one in London, I could applaud this message as an excellent "stiff upper lip -- don't let panic rule your life." But, see, it wasn't. It was not just a matter of body count and emotional trauma. The transportation system was down entirely, and the bridges and tunnels were closed. That meant if you lived off of Manhattan (as most of our support staff and many of our lawyers did), getting into it was pretty damn near impossible. (For me, it meant a three-mile walk each way, but it was at least possible.) Courts were closed. The stock market was closed. Most of the businesses we represented in NYC were closed (and a couple, located in the World Trade Center, no longer existed). The entire fucking island of Manhattan below 14th Street was closed, for fuck's sake -- I had friends camping with me who couldn't get back to their apartment for days, even to get a change of clothes. For all of those reasons, Mayor Giuliani had issued a plea that all non-essential workers stay home. And for all of those reasons, the businesses we represented outside of NYC weren't expecting a damn thing out of us. Not to mention that any work lawyers really wanted to do that day could really be done at home -- I can write a brief at home as easily as at the office.
I got a call from my secretary, sobbing that she was home with her kids way out in Brooklyn -- the schools were closed, she had no one to take them, and no way of getting into the office. I told her not to worry, that I'd give her excuses. And then I trudged my way into the office.
In light of the circumstances, that was taking "don't panic, life goes on" a little bit too far. But a smaller attack that didn't completely fuck up the city? Yeah, it would have been the right call.
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Post by poetinahat on Jun 6, 2017 23:11:07 GMT -5
Trump really is the archetype of the social-media age, isn't he? The further people are from an event, the weaker their tether to facts, the stronger the compulsion to comment, and the stronger the animus.
*posted from Australia*
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Post by robeiae on Jun 7, 2017 7:27:36 GMT -5
Trump really is the archetype of the social-media age, isn't he? The further people are from an event, the weaker their tether to facts, the stronger the compulsion to comment, and the stronger the animus. *posted from Australia* I like that: "archetype of the social-media age." And I think it's pretty accurate. All that really differentiates Trump from countless others* is that he sought and somehow won the Presidency (a big difference, to be sure). * The countless others I'm referring to are the people--and there ARE a ton of them--who operate like Trump: incessantly tweeting/posting about stuff and other people "off the cuff," mostly to criticize or complain, usually based on misrepresentations or misunderstandings.
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