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Post by robeiae on Jun 6, 2017 8:33:32 GMT -5
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Post by robeiae on Jun 6, 2017 8:38:42 GMT -5
Here's Snopes on this story: www.snopes.com/cnn-muslim-protests-london/Snopes rates the claim as "False," but I think the Mediate bit is the most accurate, ala the "editorializing." If someone is going to report from the scene of a "protest," it seems to me that the event should be happening all on its own. |
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Post by Optimus on Jun 7, 2017 14:58:42 GMT -5
Yeah, it's a bit disingenuous and I doubt most people watching the news know that such things are often staged.
We don't need the editorializing "optics" (ugh, that word). We need a more honest portrayal of reality. If the story is about protesters but the protesters are on the other side of the street, the reporter should tell them to come over and line up behind her/him. The reporter should walk their lazy ass over there and do the story from where it's actually happening. If that means your cameraman has to switch from tripod to hand-held, then oh well. That's what he/she gets paid to do.
One of my best friends is a cameraman for a local news station. He's got plenty of stories about some on-air reporters being much more concerned with how they look on camera and whether the shot makes them look awesome than they are about how accurately or well they're actually reporting the story in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 15:11:46 GMT -5
... "optics" (ugh, that word)... opty-cs  |
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Post by haggis on Jun 7, 2017 16:54:14 GMT -5
... "optics" (ugh, that word)... opty-cs *smite* |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 17:04:34 GMT -5
 But Opty totally loves it when I make that super-hilarious joke! Right, Opty? Right? |
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Post by Optimus on Jun 7, 2017 17:27:34 GMT -5
But Opty totally loves it when I make that super-hilarious joke! Right, Opty? Right?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 17:45:43 GMT -5
See? Look at that happy face!
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Post by michaelw on Jun 7, 2017 19:47:57 GMT -5
Here's Snopes on this story: www.snopes.com/cnn-muslim-protests-london/Snopes rates the claim as "False," but I think the Mediate bit is the most accurate, ala the "editorializing." If someone is going to report from the scene of a "protest," it seems to me that the event should be happening all on its own. Just out curiosity, what would you have rated the claim, if you were doing the Snopes piece? |
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Post by robeiae on Jun 8, 2017 5:50:55 GMT -5
As presented by Snopes--"CNN staged a fake protest"--calling it false is closer to the truth than calling it true. The Federalist piece's title asks the question, which is borderline. The rest of the piece is not unfair, though.
People talk about the "optics" of situations all of the time. That's legitimate concern here, imo. All of this looks pretty bad and CNN--and other media giants--really shouldn't be doing this kind of stiff, imo, especially not when anyone can film it with a cell phone. It's just feeding the #fakenews crowd.
So Snopes can rate it "false," and that's fine by me. But CNN most definitely manipulated things for the benefit of their story, and that's wromg imo. I don't care if that's how its done sometimes.
Look at this response in the Snopes piece from someone at CNN:
Lol, that's not an accurate description at all.
Here's the final conclusion from Snopes:
See, I think that's true. But it's also true that the "event" being covered wasn't really the event that was taking place. Again, I think "editorializing" is a good word for what CNN did and again it shouldn't be doing this; it's not helping anyone.
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Post by michaelw on Jun 8, 2017 5:53:22 GMT -5
That seems like a fair take on it.
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Post by robeiae on Jun 12, 2017 8:01:25 GMT -5
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