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Post by robeiae on Nov 2, 2017 7:13:38 GMT -5
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Post by michaelw on Nov 2, 2017 7:45:46 GMT -5
Brazile makes it sound like she was totally innocent in all of this. She wanted to put a thumb on the scales as much as anyone. LOL.
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Post by robeiae on Nov 2, 2017 8:44:25 GMT -5
Yes. She seems intent on tossing everyone else under the bus. That said, the specifics she cites re finances are fairly telling, with regard to how the DNC was actually being run.
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Post by mikey on Nov 2, 2017 9:46:05 GMT -5
The timing on this release is rather interesting, what with the Mueller - Manafort - Podesta thing going on. Or just a convenient coincident maybe?
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Post by maxinquaye on Nov 2, 2017 10:18:59 GMT -5
The timing on this release is rather interesting, what with the Mueller - Manafort - Podesta thing going on. Or just a convenient coincident maybe? There is always a timing issue with everything. I mean, apart from the serious nature of what Mueller is doing, the DNC is milking it for all it's worth. I'd be surprised if the GOP didn't try to counter it. The truth is, after all, that while Hillary Clinton is infinitely better than Donald Trump, she's also one of the worst candidates that the Democrats have ever fielded. I mean, Michael Dukakis is a towering intellectual giant of principle and depth compared to the Clintons. That said, I'd much rather you guys were eveloped in a furious debate about the innate and deep corruption of the new Clinton administration than in the existential threat to the very republic that you are with the Trumps.
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Post by nighttimer on Nov 2, 2017 15:26:07 GMT -5
The timing on this release is rather interesting, what with the Mueller - Manafort - Podesta thing going on. Or just a convenient coincident maybe? Hey! Didja know Donna Brazile has a book coming out and this is probably the most interesting tidbit to come out of it? Huh? Didja know that? Huh? For Bernie Bros and Hillary Haters THIS IS REALLY BIG NEWS. I mean, Donna B. was the replacement to Debbie Wasserman Schultz and everybody knew she was waving the pom-poms for Team Hillary in a big-ass way and ohmigerd this fucking confirms it. Bernie got screwed by the DNC and Donna B. is off Team Hillary and Bernie should totally demand a do-over of the 2016 Democratic Presidential primaries because even though Hillary beat his ass by THREE MILLION MOTHERFUCKING VOTES we know now the whole process was rigged. It was all fixed. Scammed. We got hoodwinked. Swindled. It was shenanigans, I tell ya! SHENANIGANS!!!!! There's only way to respond to this outrage! www.google.com/search?q=erika+jayne+how+many+fucks%3F&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgecTozS3w8sc9YSmnSWtOXmO04eIKzsgvd80rySypFNLjYoOyVLgEpXj10_UNDZNzy_LK00tKNBik-LlQhXgA_ORQ5FAAAAA&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiew8DI0qDXAhXj64MKHR_ODQ8Q6RMIcTAL&biw=1366&bih=577This is about as meaningless a "story" as it gets. A party hack like Brazile has a book to sell and rats out the same candidate she fed debate answers to and what does it prove? Oooo..the Democrats schemed to keep a non-Democrat from winning their presidential nomination because they didn't want a cranky old Larry David lookalike with worse hair to pull a George McGovern and get both his ass and the whole damn party's other candidates smoked like sausage. Hillary Clinton won because more Democrats voted for her than him. How unfair. Boo. Hoo. After dispatching Sanders, a triumphant, but bloodied Clinton choked away the general election and Trump won. Had the nominee been Sanders instead of Clinton, Trump would have still won. I'm convinced of it. Why? Because Bernie Bros and Sanders Sistas are loud and proud, but they aren't a plurality of Democratic voters and 12 percent of them ended up voting for Trump. But so what and who cares? There are no do-overs. There's no relitigating the Democratic Primary. There was a winner and there was a loser and no matter how greasy the DNC's thumb was on the scale, it didn't tip the nomination from Sanders to Clinton. The only question is why a hardcore Clinton loyalist like Brazile is ratting out Hillary now? Silly goose, I told you already. She has a book to sell and I have no fucks to give.
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Post by robeiae on Nov 2, 2017 15:39:51 GMT -5
Shakespeare, right?
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Post by mikey on Nov 2, 2017 16:13:32 GMT -5
Wow! That was a lot of effort for someone who doesn't give a fuck. Awesome
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Post by nighttimer on Nov 2, 2017 17:38:28 GMT -5
Seuss. Adult version. Wow! That was a lot of effort for someone who doesn't give a fuck. Awesome Not really. Actually it was pretty easy. Giving no fucks about non-stories always is.
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Post by robeiae on Nov 2, 2017 18:30:06 GMT -5
Really, I agree that this is all pointless, with regard to Sanders, his supporters, and their sour grapes. And as I said, I think Brazile is looking to throw everyone else under the bus, mostly to make her self look less bad. And of course, she's got book coming out (not unlike Hillary Clinton, right, whose whining should have been taken seriously?).
But I don't think it's pointless with regard to the DNC and how it was being run (is still being run?). I would think that party members who are looking forward to both 2018 and 2020 might be more than a little interested in the ins and outs here.
And I do actually think the timing of this is interesting, insofar as what Manafort is being indicted for, what he was doing in the private sector, kinda looks like what the Clintons where aspiring to, with regard to how they were running the DNC, Hillary's campaign and action committee, and the Clinton Foundation. She comes across--imo--as kinda the poster child for people who think we need serious campaign finance reform and who think there's too much quid pro quoing in DC. Given who's in the White House now, that's pretty sad.
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Post by michaelw on Nov 2, 2017 18:48:01 GMT -5
But I don't think it's pointless with regard to the DNC and how it was being run (is still being run?). I would think that party members who are looking forward to both 2018 and 2020 might be more than a little interested in the ins and outs here. Well, I think many (most?) are still in denial about what happened (or if not, then at least they're in denial about the why). Hence you end up with Tom Perez, who doth protest too much that the primary process should be fair. I mean, why on earth is he even saying this? Did something happen that would make people think it wasn't fair?
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Post by michaelw on Nov 2, 2017 23:17:29 GMT -5
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Post by nighttimer on Nov 3, 2017 0:52:08 GMT -5
Brazile makes it sound like she was totally innocent in all of this. She wanted to put a thumb on the scales as much as anyone. LOL. Donna Brazile is a survivor and you can bet your ass had Hillary Clinton won, Brazile would be kissing hers for a job. That didn't happen, so here comes her oh-so-appropriately named book, Hacks, and she's giving Hillary the Big Kiss-Off. Not to anyone except Bernie Bros and Donna Brazile. On a personal note, I interviewed Brazile back in the day and found her politically savvy and quotable but egotistical and lacking candor and while quotable. Now I can add "disloyal opportunist" to the list. Thanks, Donna! You just confirmed the already-low opinion of I had of you. Enjoy the very brief turn in the media spin cycle. There's always another Washington "insider" with a tale to tell and a book to sale. Brazile is barely the Flavor of the Week and certainly not the month. I suspect before she fades back to Obscurity City, the pro-Clinton cabal in the press (yes, they do exist), will have their say as to what else might be motivating Brazile's backstabbing of Hillary. I still doubt I'll have gotten any fucks to give.
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Post by robeiae on Nov 3, 2017 5:31:42 GMT -5
That's almost too on the nose to be satire, I think.
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Post by robeiae on Nov 7, 2017 7:34:31 GMT -5
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