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Post by Amadan on Aug 27, 2018 8:09:29 GMT -5
Furries are heavily represented in nerd culture and they're "weird" (nerds who cosplay in anthropomorphic animal costumes... and, like Don said, there is often, though not always, a sexual fetish component) which makes them easy targets and thus the nerds that even other nerds make fun of. They are mostly harmless. I have a couple of friends who are furries. But it's really hard to avoid making fun of them because... yeah, having sex in animal costumes. (They even have a special term for it - "yiffing." )
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Post by celawson on Aug 27, 2018 10:43:47 GMT -5
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Post by markesq on Aug 27, 2018 13:06:46 GMT -5
I shouldn't click on that while at work, should I?!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 13:29:51 GMT -5
I have no inclination towards the furry lifestyle myself, but it doesn't hurt anyone. Let 'em play.
The internet has to have been an amazing boon for people with unusual sexual inclinations. I'm just imagining how difficult and risky it must have been for (for example) furries to find one another. Now, they can easily find a community sharing their interest. I think that's great. Now -- if only we could keep, say, white nationalists from finding communities of like-minded people...
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Post by celawson on Aug 27, 2018 16:48:55 GMT -5
I shouldn't click on that while at work, should I?!
HAHAHAHAHA!
Perfectly safe. It's just The Doors, 'People are Strange' video.
Methinks you wanted furries.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 17:22:39 GMT -5
I have to say, I'd rank celawson as dead last on the list of people here likely to post a link that you couldn't safely click on at work. And of course, you can trust me. (I need that little angel emoticon...)
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Post by markesq on Aug 27, 2018 17:35:31 GMT -5
I shouldn't click on that while at work, should I?!
HAHAHAHAHA!
Perfectly safe. It's just The Doors, 'People are Strange' video.
Methinks you wanted furries.
HA! I have my kinks, but they ain't furry ones...
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Post by Vince524 on Aug 27, 2018 18:41:41 GMT -5
I have to say, I'd rank celawson as dead last on the list of people here likely to post a link that you couldn't safely click on at work. And of course, you can trust me. (I need that little angel emoticon...) Who is first on the list?
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Post by Christine on Aug 27, 2018 20:32:08 GMT -5
That language is just NOT NECESSARY. And it bugs me because it's so pervasive. I live across the street from a high school, and just hearing what comes out of kids' mouths as they walk along the wall next to our house is incredible. My husband and I never curse in front of the kids and rarely curse in life. And we've instructed our kids we don't want them saying those words or texting those words. It's an issue of respect and acting in a certain way that has a level of class. And they don't say them at home. But the other day my husband and I were watching my daughter play in the first varsity volleyball match of the season. She missed a hit, and she mouthed the word "f**k" so obviously. My husband and I turned to each other, mortified. He said "Well, at least only about 200 people saw her do that." Good God. They're inundated with that language in everything from movies to YouTube to music, and it becomes second nature. I hate it. Actually mortified? That's so weird to me. It cracked me up when each of my kids first employed the word "fuck." And I disagree. Sometimes that language is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. Re: the OP, "suck my dick and balls" is obviously way over the top and shouldn't be used like it was unless you know the person is going to take it as lighthearted (which it was clearly meant to be, imo). But also, tweeting Language in response to the original tweet was dickish, no matter who the guy was, unless he was enforcing a rule that NASA interns aren't allowed to say "fuck." In which case, what the fuck. And also in which case, tweeting Language wasn't the way to communicate the rule. ETA: PSA Using asterisks to avoid actually typing out a bad word is not doing a g******ed thing to keep the person reading your asterisked word from hearing the word in their head. Nor is referring to the word as the f-word, or the s-word, etc., since the person reading will mentally note that the f-word is the word fuck, the s-word is the word shit, etc. It's impossible not to do this. Neither does it protect you from committing the deplorable act of swearing, because you were also thinking it even as you refrained from typing out all the letters, thus you were effectively swearing. Your only option--and it's tenuous at best--is to type "swear word" and concentrate on thinking about anything but the swear word, especially the letter it starts with. /PSA
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Post by Amadan on Aug 28, 2018 8:40:39 GMT -5
Actually mortified? That's so weird to me. It cracked me up when each of my kids first employed the word "fuck." And I disagree. Sometimes that language is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. Re: the OP, "suck my dick and balls" is obviously way over the top and shouldn't be used like it was unless you know the person is going to take it as lighthearted (which it was clearly meant to be, imo). But also, tweeting Language in response to the original tweet was dickish, no matter who the guy was, unless he was enforcing a rule that NASA interns aren't allowed to say "fuck." In which case, what the fuck. And also in which case, tweeting Language wasn't the way to communicate the rule. Eh, Homer Hickam is a 75-year-old engineer and probably still pretty old school, so he probably just thought he was admonishing a bright young employee about professionalism. I think waxing indignant because an old guy still thinks you shouldn't drop f-bombs on social media is no more productive than waxing indignant about dropping f-bombs on social media. As for swearing, I swear plenty myself, but I admit the Millennial speech pattern of using "fucking fuckity fucking fuck" as verb, noun, adjective, adverb, participle, and punctuation mark grates on me.
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Post by celawson on Aug 28, 2018 10:23:35 GMT -5
Actually mortified? That's so weird to me. It cracked me up when each of my kids first employed the word "fuck." And I disagree. Sometimes that language is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. Re: the OP, "suck my dick and balls" is obviously way over the top and shouldn't be used like it was unless you know the person is going to take it as lighthearted (which it was clearly meant to be, imo). But also, tweeting Language in response to the original tweet was dickish, no matter who the guy was, unless he was enforcing a rule that NASA interns aren't allowed to say "fuck." In which case, what the fuck. And also in which case, tweeting Language wasn't the way to communicate the rule. ETA: PSA Using asterisks to avoid actually typing out a bad word is not doing a g******ed thing to keep the person reading your asterisked word from hearing the word in their head. Nor is referring to the word as the f-word, or the s-word, etc., since the person reading will mentally note that the f-word is the word fuck, the s-word is the word shit, etc. It's impossible not to do this. Neither does it protect you from committing the deplorable act of swearing, because you were also thinking it even as you refrained from typing out all the letters, thus you were effectively swearing. Your only option--and it's tenuous at best--is to type "swear word" and concentrate on thinking about anything but the swear word, especially the letter it starts with. /PSA No, it really is NOT necessary. It might feel good sometimes, but it's not necessary.
And yes, we were mortified. She was on a varsity volleyball court in a packed gym (our school is nationally known for volleyball), with the freshman and JV teams watching. Many parents and younger siblings were in the stands. Lots of people saw. It is also against the school's Athlete's Code of Conduct: She could have received a yellow card from the ref, if he'd seen her.
As far as you laughing when your kid says it, I guess we parent differently. We talked to my daughter at dinner the next day and explained how she should be setting an example for the younger teams watching, and that it was an inappropriate place to swear, and that she needs to show respect for her opportunity on the varsity court.
Regarding the PSA, I will continue to use asterisks just as I have been doing, thankyouverymuch, for plenty of reasons other than trying to avoid hearing the word in my head. Of course I swear in my head at times. And when I'm at home alone. And yes, I admit it feels good sometimes. But I don't do it in our home in front of my family, or publicly. That's decorum. (Except the one time I missed the freeway off-ramp and simultaneously spilled coffee on my white pants while we were running late to my older daughter's tournament. And even then I am holding to my story that I stopped myself before the ck. My daughters might or might not disagree with that version of events. )
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Post by Lavern on Aug 28, 2018 10:41:58 GMT -5
… I have therefore become cautious about using it, as I have with "Marry me!" (which, when I use it, is not actually intended as a proposal of marriage, but instead as the equivalent of "I heartily agree!") Wait! - What?I used the phrase " Marry Me?" recently, and I was as serious as a heart attack about my proposal. - I mean really, who wouldn't marry someone who uses Sweet Chili Cheetos as bread crumbs?
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Post by Christine on Aug 28, 2018 14:16:06 GMT -5
Eh, Homer Hickam is a 75-year-old engineer and probably still pretty old school, so he probably just thought he was admonishing a bright young employee about professionalism. Perhaps, and I don't want to be hard on him, he seems like a very nice person. But it does irk me when people go around language-policing (assuming it wasn't a rule) on Twitter of all places. I don't have a problem with people saying "hey, that's mean, don't be a jerk." Or, in this case, "Perhaps consider some in your audience (cough-NASA-cough) might be put off by your unprofessional word choice." But... "Language" just comes off like ... meh. This is true. But since the OP is all about how awful f-bombs are, I thought the other side needed a bit of airtime. It's practically an art form nowadays, and it can indeed go horribly awry. c.e., I don't swear because "it feels good." This is the (bizarre, imo) difference between people who use swear words and people who still think it's "bad" to swear. As far as my "parenting," my kids have known since they were 10 when swearing is and isn't appropriate. They have long understood that some people don't like to hear swear words, and they shouldn't assume. They understand what school/in-public rules are. They follow the rules, not because swearing is "bad," but because there's no need to offend people, even people with antiquated ideas, and especially elderly people. They were taught to be kind, with ALL their words. So far, none of them, currently aged from 27 to 12, has ever failed to follow these guidelines, or otherwise "mortified" me. Go figure.
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Post by Amadan on Aug 28, 2018 14:32:00 GMT -5
Anecdote time!(re: "Old guys and swearing.") There's an old guy (in his 80s) that plays in my bar poker league. And he reliably gets upset and indignant, every single time, when someone at the poker table breaks out the four-letter words. Keep in mind, we're playing poker. At a bar. Swearing is going to happen. At one point, I could not resist asking him: "You were in the Army, right? You know, I was in the Army too, and I seem to remember a lot of swearing... didn't you ever get used to it?" "Oh no," he insisted, "I served with gentlemen!" He's a nice old guy (and a Catholic deacon, which I think is why he gets so church-ladyish) but dude, seriously? The fuck you say....
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Post by celawson on Aug 28, 2018 14:32:04 GMT -5
And if I hadn't been at that game, on that side of the gym, watching her as opposed to any of a hundred other things at that moment, I wouldn't have been mortified, either. Before that incident, I would have thought the same about her as you do about your kids. Go figure.
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