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Post by Christine on Aug 28, 2018 14:33:44 GMT -5
And if I hadn't been at that game, on that side of the gym, watching her as opposed to any of a hundred other things at that moment, I wouldn't have been mortified, either. Before that incident, I would have thought the same about her as you do about your kids. Go figure. That's fucking adorable. |
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Post by celawson on Aug 28, 2018 14:41:36 GMT -5
So now Homer Hickam has closed his Twitter and part of his blog, due to the backlash he's received from this incident.
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Post by Vince524 on Aug 28, 2018 18:11:34 GMT -5
Actually mortified? That's so weird to me. It cracked me up when each of my kids first employed the word "fuck." And I disagree. Sometimes that language is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. Re: the OP, "suck my dick and balls" is obviously way over the top and shouldn't be used like it was unless you know the person is going to take it as lighthearted (which it was clearly meant to be, imo). But also, tweeting Language in response to the original tweet was dickish, no matter who the guy was, unless he was enforcing a rule that NASA interns aren't allowed to say "fuck." In which case, what the fuck. And also in which case, tweeting Language wasn't the way to communicate the rule. Eh, Homer Hickam is a 75-year-old engineer and probably still pretty old school, so he probably just thought he was admonishing a bright young employee about professionalism. I think waxing indignant because an old guy still thinks you shouldn't drop f-bombs on social media is no more productive than waxing indignant about dropping f-bombs on social media. As for swearing, I swear plenty myself, but I admit the Millennial speech pattern of using "fucking fuckity fucking fuck" as verb, noun, adjective, adverb, participle, and punctuation mark grates on me. Next most overused word these days is 'like'. "So like, I was like, thinking that like, I shouldn't go out because, like, I need to like study, but like I haven't gone out like in so long, so like I thought that if I like went out for an hour, like I'd be able to come back and like study for the night, but like once I was there, I was like so into the music, and like this guy I like met was so cute and he like just wanted to like get to know me, so I figured I'd like study tomorrow, like I know, I'm really going to like study now." And no, I'm not kidding. Like? |
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Post by Christine on Aug 28, 2018 19:20:36 GMT -5
I have one re: old ladies and swearing.... I had an 70-something neighbor a few years back who discovered the phrase "Shut the Front Door!" She gleefully relayed to me at least three incidents where she had used this phrase in public -- at the grocery store, at the crafts store, etc. She was tickled to death that everyone thought she was *about to say*... yanno, STFU. I will never forget her laughing -- nay, cackling -- as she told me of these encounters. My guess is, she secretly had probably at various times throughout her life wanted to tell many, many people to shut the fuck up. But of course she was raised better. No, not at all. I think it's kind of, like, the new (newer) version of "um." |
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Post by Amadan on Aug 29, 2018 8:28:28 GMT -5
New? Like, dude, I was, like hearing too much "like" when I was in, like, high school.
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Post by celawson on Aug 29, 2018 10:04:45 GMT -5
How does something like (heh) the "like" stuff even get started and become so pervasive? Who was the very first person who spoke that way? And why would it spread? That fascinates me.
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Post by Amadan on Aug 29, 2018 10:18:08 GMT -5
"Like" originated in the speech patterns of the San Fernando Valley in the 70s and 80s (hence "Valley Girl speech"), which thanks to its proximity to Hollywood, became disseminated throughout GenX youth culture and thus took hold all over the country.
I suspect it originated as short for "Kind of like" which became a substitution for "approximately" or "similar to" and then a general filler word to moderate one's degree of assertiveness. Like all slang terms (for example, the Millennial use of "literally" to mean "very" or a general term of emphasis) there is probably an easy to trace linguistic evolution whose actual historical path is impossible to know for certain.
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Post by celawson on Aug 29, 2018 11:00:40 GMT -5
Ah. Hollywood. Makes sense. Thanks!
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Post by Christine on Aug 29, 2018 18:56:01 GMT -5
New? Like, dude, I was, like hearing too much "like" when I was in, like, high school. Well, yeah, but it's like you said - it was "Valley Girl" speak back then. I see a big difference now as opposed to the original usage (like I'm so sure, like, oh my god, it's like so totally bitchin'). All that affect has gone by the wayside. It's used differently now, in casual speak and not dramatically or otherwise for emphasis - it's used simply as pause-filler, like "um." At least, that's what it sounds like around here with the kids. Not at all how it sounded when I was in school. MMV. |
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