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Post by robeiae on Jul 1, 2021 8:26:35 GMT -5
Least surprising story of the day: www.politico.com/news/2021/06/30/kamala-harris-office-dissent-497290 I think this was obvious back during the primaries, was the reason why her campaign collapsed. As an AG, she could get by with being an unlikable hard ass, she only needed to be a politician during election season. She lacks the skill set for the job she has, imo.
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Post by Optimus on Jul 1, 2021 13:11:38 GMT -5
What happens when a "Top Tier CandidateTM" (who was polling around 1% when she dropped out) becomes a "Top Tier Vice PresidentTM" because Biden selected a VP based on the gender and race boxes he could check off instead of their actual qualifications and abilities.
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Post by prozyan on Jul 2, 2021 0:24:44 GMT -5
What happens when a "Top Tier Candidate TM" (who was polling around 1% when she dropped out) becomes a "Top Tier Vice President TM" because Biden selected a VP based on the gender and race boxes he could check off instead of their actual qualifications and abilities. No doubt he did that. And didn't even pick the best within those confines. I think Val Demings would have been a much better choice if the choice had to be black and female.
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Post by robeiae on Jul 10, 2021 20:22:10 GMT -5
Jesus Christ, what a condescending ass:
And LOL at the "no Kinkos." Are there still Kinkos?
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Post by mikey on Jul 11, 2021 9:09:28 GMT -5
Not positive, but I think smart phones took the place of kinkos
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Post by Optimus on Jul 11, 2021 10:45:51 GMT -5
Jesus Christ, what a condescending ass: And LOL at the "no Kinkos." Are there still Kinkos? I think FedEx bought them like a decade ago. I think they're still around but mostly for making flyers, posters, and marketing stuff for small businesses and church groups.
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Post by prozyan on Jul 11, 2021 19:29:17 GMT -5
They'll do anything to make it sound like requiring ID to vote is a hardship. This leads to mostly ridiculous talking points because it is, in fact, not a hardship to show some form of ID.
When my son played little league, I had to show ID and TWO proofs of residency just to sign him up.
When I purchased tickets to this year's MLB all-star game to go watch my good friend Trevor Rogers play in his first of hopefully many, it says I have to show ID to pick my tickets up.
Showing ID isn't a hardship, whether you are white, black, brown, yellow, pink, purple or whatever.
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Post by Optimus on Jul 12, 2021 13:24:23 GMT -5
They'll do anything to make it sound like requiring ID to vote is a hardship. This leads to mostly ridiculous talking points because it is, in fact, not a hardship to show some form of ID. When my son played little league, I had to show ID and TWO proofs of residency just to sign him up. When I purchased tickets to this year's MLB all-star game to go watch my good friend Trevor Rogers play in his first of hopefully many, it says I have to show ID to pick my tickets up. Showing ID isn't a hardship, whether you are white, black, brown, yellow, pink, purple or whatever. I think I've mentioned this elsewhere but the Left's characterization of this as some sort of hardship on non-whites and poor people is yet another example of them infantilizing and implicitly disparaging non-whites as incompetent and dumb (ironically, it's quite racist). They seem to think that most black people have never bought a beer or cigarettes, driven a car, or applied for a job, all of which require government-issued ID.
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Post by robeiae on Jul 12, 2021 14:13:11 GMT -5
Yeah, this idea that there is a huge chunk of people (US citizens) without IDs, people who not only work, drive, rent or own, and raise families, but who also are politically aware voters, has to be one of the most ludicrous yet widely accepted propositions out there. In my mind, people who actually believe this are akin to flat-earthers.
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Post by Optimus on Jul 29, 2021 13:27:26 GMT -5
Saw this today and thought it was a beautiful destruction of the left's idiotic, and tacitly racist, stance on voter ID laws:
The types of laws/requirements which significantly impede voting are the ridiculously stupid ones that restrict time and place of voting (e.g., closing polling locations, reducing hours of polling locations, restricting mail-in and absentee voting, etc.) which generally ARE focused on areas more heavily populated by poor people and black/brown citizens. Those are the ones that need to be abolished, not the more sensible voter ID laws.
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Post by michaelw on Aug 6, 2021 16:59:29 GMT -5
Showing ID isn't a hardship, whether you are white, black, brown, yellow, pink, purple or whatever. A personal story somewhat related to this topic: I recently came back to the states after living in Asia for a number of years. I'm now living in Virginia, and I had an appointment earlier this week to go to the DMV to get a state ID. I thought I had all the required documents I needed, but the one thing I didn't have was my previous ID, which I had lost at some point while living abroad. It turned out that even though I had a zillion different documents, they claimed they couldn't issue me an ID without me turning in the previous one I had. Apparently, if my previous ID had been issued in Virginia, they could simply look me up in their database, but they couldn't since the ID had been issued in Delaware. When I asked what my options were, they told me--and I'm not making this up--that the only solution was to get another ID issued from Delaware, which I could then turn over to the DMV in Virginia. (Whether this would even be possible isn't clear to me, especially if it would require me to re-establish residency in Delaware. At the very least, it would require me to go back to Delaware in person, which would be a pretty major burden for me since I don't drive and also don't really have any other reason to go there.) So in the end, I just gave up. Now, technically, I'm not a person without an ID, because I do have a passport. But I do know that a lot of people don't have a passport. And after this experience, I don't find it all that hard to believe that--at least in some cases--it's pretty difficult to get an ID. All it really requires is a belief that government agencies are--at least sometimes--a Kafkaesque nightmare of bureaucracy, which I certainly feel is often the case. (Another example that I've read about but haven't personally experienced: in some states, apparently you need a birth certificate to get a state ID, and you also need an ID in order to obtain your birth certificate if you don't already have it, which sounds to me like a vicious circle.) Whether all of this should indicate that Voter ID laws are problematic, I'm not sure. In theory, I suppose they could just make it easier to get an ID. But in practice, that may never happen. Just my thoughts after this frustrating experience.
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Post by Optimus on Aug 6, 2021 19:52:44 GMT -5
I'm sure that's the case for some people and I'd be there are likely dozens, perhaps hundreds, of other people out there with anecdotes similar to yours. But I'm not convinced that they're a statistically significant proportion of the population. However, there isn't much credible evidence that supports the claim that voter ID laws make any kind of an impact at all, much less disproportionately affect non-whites and poor people (which, in a lot of Dems minds are the same thing). Vox, to my own shock, actually covered this: www.vox.com/identities/2017/3/15/14909764/study-voter-id-racismAnd, I know this is also anecdotal and likely at least somewhat cleverly edited, but I'd still suggest that this video sums up the view of the normal, non-activist majority pretty well:
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Post by robeiae on Aug 6, 2021 20:46:04 GMT -5
FWIW, I think the Feds should provide a passport to any citizen who applies for one at no cost, whatsoever. In my mind, that service is a primary duty of the Federal Government; it's why we pay taxes.
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Post by michaelw on Aug 6, 2021 23:20:04 GMT -5
I'm sure that's the case for some people and I'd be there are likely dozens, perhaps hundreds, of other people out there with anecdotes similar to yours. But I'm not convinced that they're a statistically significant proportion of the population. Well, there may not be a massive number of people w/ similar anecdotes, I agree, but I think the overall number of US adults without a current, up-to-date, government-issued ID is still pretty significant. Yeah that's a pretty good piece, IMO. And I think it may be true that voter ID laws don't have much of an impact, in the sense of actually swinging elections one way or the other. Of course, that could be true about voter fraud as well, don't you think? The ending to that piece (quoted below) was something I really think is crucial, though... Lopez gets it, IMO. There's nothing wrong with trying to understand the impact of various laws, but that doesn't mean impact is the only important metric here. If there are people trying to put their thumb on the scale, but they aren't very competent at doing it, I am not sure I see the latter as really compensating for the former, you know? (And, FWIW, Georgia actually does require a government-issued photo ID to vote, yet a lot of people on the right seem convinced that their election was still full of fraud. OTOH, in Kentucky, you can vote using a social security card, and apparently in Ohio you can use a utility bill. Make of that what you will. )
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Post by michaelw on Aug 6, 2021 23:28:10 GMT -5
FWIW, I think the Feds should provide a passport to any citizen who applies for one at no cost, whatsoever. In my mind, that service is a primary duty of the Federal Government; it's why we pay taxes. I agree on that, for sure.
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