Truck drives onto pedestrian path in NYC, at least 7 dead...

Not that this was even my argument to begin with, but here you go, from the New York Times:

Go back and read her posts.  That's not what she is saying at all. 
"Attacking and ranting?"  Now that's a good one.  You'd know something about attacking and ranting at posters, wouldn't you?   I defer to your vastly superior experience on how to lose your shit. 

I'd listen if you had something to say that wasn't delivered dripping in derision and condescension.

It's pretty haughty that you are trying to school me on attitudes about terrorism in New York as if the rest of the country spent the day watching cartoons and scratching in inappropriate places waiting for the "New Yorkers" to tell us what it was really like. 

I'm going to hazard a guess and say you weren't in the World Trade Center that day and you didn't hop on your bike and try to pedal away from a choking cloud of smoke, debris and falling building and you probably didn't rush to the nearest hospital to donate blood for the survivors that didn't come.   I'm going to hazard a guess and say you probably got through 9/11 the way most of America did.  Glued to a television and recoiling in horror. 

That was probably a wrong guess, but then again, I wasn't there at the WTC on September 11, 2001 to know for sure.  But then, neither were you.

When Los Angeles erupted in bloody rioting after the Rodney King/LAPD verdict none of us here were there, but all of us probably had an opinion about it.  When New Orleans was devastated by Hurricane Katrina, none of us were there treading through black water and trying to survive, but all of us probably had an opinion about it.  When terrorists took control of two planes and sent them careening into the Twin Towers, none of us were in the planes, in the buildings or on the ground, but all of us probably had an opinion about it.

But now only your opinion counts about NYC in the wake of 9/11?  That's not adorable at all. 
 
Yeah.  That, and my wife's understandable apprehension means a lot more to me than your condescension.

It would be one thing if you had said, "Sorry to hear that, but tell her people are going about their daily lives with open eyes and a calm resolve and the police are stepping up their presence to avoid further acts of terror."  But you didn't do that did you?  You jumped in with your feelings on your sleeve in response to my comment to Vince with a nasty, "New Yorkers don't have time to cower and freak out."

Us vs. Them, huh?   Well, I'm so happy for you and your Halloween party and your bike path and what everyone you know is saying, but everyone YOU know ain't anyone I know, so understand if I don't take what you say as the gospel truth and last word on the subject. 

However, I do appreciate you finally admitting you can't speak for every human living in New York.  That falls under the category of "Knew That Already."

Your failure to grasp my point does not mean there is no point.  I can assure you it is not, "YOU'RE WRONG, CASSANDRA!"  If I were saying, "YOU'RE RIGHT, CASSANDRA!" you would have no problem grasping the point.  But to agree with you would only mean we'd both be wrong. 



I can't say I do because I wasn't, but then I never said I did.  And Christine and I never claimed to have our finger on the pulse more than you do.  That's your claim because you personalized the debate and insisted on sharing your bona fides when nobody called them into question in the first place.

If there's an axe to be ground here, you're the one doing it, Cassandra. 

I do find it admirable, for the record. It's just that, as per my first post in this thread, I don't find it different as per your contention that people living in New York are somehow special in this regard. I also don't imagine that every person who lives in New York feels exactly the same as those who showed up at the Halloween festival four hours after the attack. It doesn't make sense to me that simply because a person is a resident of New York, they're somehow categorically different than other Americans, or human beings, who have experienced terror attacks. Case in point, those who showed up in Vegas after the attack, those who showed up in Orlando after the attack. And then there's London. Paris. Etc.


This is just silly on every level. No one has claimed that anyone is "cowering in their homes." No one is "getting in your face," unless you think disagreeing with you is getting in your face. Unless you think you are absolutely correct on this topic and any disagreement must be personal.



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