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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 11:41:57 GMT -5
Also, the doctor lost two front teeth, had his nose broken, and suffered a concussion. www.cbsnews.com/news/united-airlines-passenger-dragged-off-flight-speaks/ Not to mention emotional trauma, having his name dragged through the mud on international media, and, oh yes, being wrongfully removed from a flight he had every right to be on. We are talking huge multi-million dollar settlement, if Dau even agrees to settle. I don't think he should settle, personally, and I hope he doesn't -- not only will he likely get more from a jury, but he might also perhaps improve things for other travelers. Since 9/11, it has increasingly become the case that airlines and the TSA think they can do whatever the fuck they want, and the scariest thing is that fewer and fewer people are questioning that, even when what the airlines/TSA are doing clearly has fuck-all to to with safety and security (which is why we started down that road in the first place). It needs to stop. I hope Dau exits this horrific case a very wealthy man, and that travelers are treated in a somewhat less cavalier, more respectful, more reasonable way going forward. Airlines and the TSA do not and should not have the right to do whatever the fuck they want. Passengers have rights, too. ETA: This attitude also carries over to authority in general -- cops who think they can do pretty much whatever they like, and citizens who agree. This is not to say that all cops, all airline employees and all TSA agents have this attitude, but too many do, and too many people just don't know their rights. Kowtowing blindly to authority is not a good thing.
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Post by robeiae on Apr 13, 2017 14:48:25 GMT -5
I don't know. He seems to be holding all the cards. He might settle simply because United is so desperate to make this go away, to the point that they'll offer a ridiculous amount.
As to this guy being misidentified, my bad. Though I agree that the guy's past is completely inconsequential, I thought it interesting--and still find the idea interesting--with regard to how far people are potentially willing to push things in the press when they have sketchy backgrounds.
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Post by michaelw on Apr 13, 2017 16:20:57 GMT -5
Kowtowing blindly to authority is not a good thing. Agreed. * * Only agreeing because it's Cass and I look up to her as an authority figure.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 16:35:58 GMT -5
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Post by Don on Apr 14, 2017 3:07:13 GMT -5
Three pages in and nobody's made the obligatory " Fly United" joke?
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Post by robeiae on Apr 14, 2017 11:34:07 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 11:45:43 GMT -5
Scorpions cast extra in coach.
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Post by nighttimer on Apr 14, 2017 12:23:48 GMT -5
As to this guy being misidentified, my bad. Though I agree that the guy's past is completely inconsequential, I thought it interesting--and still find the idea interesting--with regard to how far people are potentially willing to push things in the press when they have sketchy backgrounds. Pardon me, but who here was it whom decided despite the guy's past being completely inconsequential (and being misidentified), still thought it interesting to introduce a heavy-handed and obvious attempt to dirty up Dr. Dao's character in the discussion? It's inaccurate to call a story from TMZ part of "the press." It's totally absurd to call a story quoted from TMZ by Hollywoodlife.com, the home of "Juicy celebrity gossip, the latest entertainment news, exclusive celebrity pics & videos - plus the hottest celebrity fashion & beauty," part of "the press." In all things, consider the source. Here and elsewhere.
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Post by robeiae on Apr 14, 2017 12:36:12 GMT -5
Pardon me, but who here was it whom decided despite the guy's past being completely inconsequential (and being misidentified), still thought it interesting to introduce a heavy-handed and obvious attempt to dirty up Dr. Dao's character in the discussion? Me. Because as I just explained, I find it an interesting topic: how much press/attention are people willing to get over something like this when they have sketchy backgrounds. Obviously, it doesn't apply in this case, since the guy was misidentified...or was he? www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-united-david-dao-20170412-story.htmlwww.snopes.com/2017/04/12/wrong-david-dao/Guess my mea culpa--from the identification standpoint--was premature. But again, inconsequential with regard to the specifics of the case. But perhaps relevant to whether or not the guy settles with United. Because I watched the press conference and the guy's lawyer made a big deal out of him being a doctor (which I think is also irrelevant).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 12:42:00 GMT -5
It is sobering to consider how this story would have played out minus the videos and social media.
Very likely, United's intial story that the guy was belligerent and disruptive would have passed as true. Dau and some passengers would have disputed it, but United is way more powerful. Then the alleged sketchy past story would have been reported.
As it is, that video was taken and went viral, along with the words of fellow passengers who witnessed it. Practically no one can watch it and think that it was justifiable. As a result, United and the thugs who brutalized Dau will almost certainly be held accountable. Otherwise, they'd probably successfully paint Dau as an exaggerating prima donna who made a ruckus on the plane, and who is also a crook who deserved what he got.
Sometimes I hate cell phones and social media and find them tiresome and intrusive. But this incident alone shows their value.
I want Dau to walk away a very rich man. He needs reconstructive surgery, apparently.
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Taking the temperature of the public via Twitter, almost no one cares about Dau's past -- indeed, people are mostly pissed off the media dredged it up.
It's all that video. You can't watch it and think "oh, he had that coming." You immediately put yourself or your Dad in that airline seat.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 14:01:23 GMT -5
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Post by robeiae on Apr 14, 2017 16:55:11 GMT -5
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Post by Don on Apr 16, 2017 6:07:48 GMT -5
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Post by Don on Apr 16, 2017 6:14:17 GMT -5
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Post by michaelw on Apr 16, 2017 23:09:40 GMT -5
Good analysis. If correct, then Dao isn't the only one who could sue. Sounds like the other passengers who got kicked off could sue as well.
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