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Post by celawson on Nov 21, 2016 19:57:59 GMT -5
I agree with Christine - I assumed they mandated that equal numbers of men and women had to plough. And then the women couldn't plough as much. Wow I must be very sexist! 😃
Also, I SO agree with Don about this pro-Europe stuff. There's no excuse for being a fan of fiscal and governmental policies that aren't working. But as has been mentioned, can't let the facts mess with the narrative.
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Post by celawson on Nov 21, 2016 13:46:02 GMT -5
She's VERY well known by the younger demographic, which is why she was asked to host the AMAs. (I have two daughters ) She has over 23 million Instagram followers. I think that's well known.
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Post by celawson on Nov 21, 2016 13:22:00 GMT -5
I'm not outraged, though I am very against Hadid's "performance", for several reasons. My point is that only in the leftist bubble of Hollywood, would a sketch like that seem appropriate for a major network awards show.
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Post by celawson on Nov 21, 2016 13:12:35 GMT -5
Celebrities mocking politicians is not something I can really get worked up about. After Obama's election, I saw more than one person circulating pictures of watermelon patches on the White House lawn. Har har. So yeah, there are going to be nasty jokes, especially with a First Lady who's got nude photos out there. I don't think that's a leftist bubble, at least no more than celebrity enclaves always are. Were those watermelon pictures being shown for entertainment on a major network television show with millions of viewers?
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Post by celawson on Nov 21, 2016 12:48:35 GMT -5
One thing I'm interpreting as part of the left's bubble is what seems to be a trend currently of quite publicly mocking the soon-to-be first family. Gigi Hadid did it on the AMA's last night and is getting reamed (rightly so, IMO). I mean, it's one thing when SNL does it to Trump with wit and talent and at least a kernel of truth (sometimes way more than a kernel), and they do mock the other side (even if not 50/50). But Hadid's impression of Melania last night was a disgrace, not only in lack of talent but in the bubble ensconced assumption that pretty much everyone out there would agree with her and find the act funny. Well, I hate to break it to her, but HALF THE COUNTRY DISAGREES WITH HER POLITICAL VIEWS. And a lot more than that have more respect or consideration for someone who by what I can gather is a decent person and did not ask to be thrust into this sort of political limelight. Did she really think America would enjoy this impression? I honestly think, because she is surrounded by her political echo chamber, that she really thought people would like it. And apparently so did the producers of the show. www.cnn.com/2016/11/21/entertainment/gigi-hadid-melania-trump-ama/
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Post by celawson on Nov 20, 2016 15:02:44 GMT -5
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Post by celawson on Nov 20, 2016 12:12:02 GMT -5
This is funny and not funny at the same time.
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Post by celawson on Nov 19, 2016 18:55:23 GMT -5
Now I'm afraid to read about whatever this is. I don't like it when stuff leaks out of my ear.
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Post by celawson on Nov 19, 2016 18:34:52 GMT -5
All right, chica, put yer dukes up! 1) The GOP isn't dead, no. I never thought they were, but I hoped some of their extreme rhetoric was going to be sidelined, because it wasn't working anymore, and they would become more center/moderate, which would be extremely appealing to me personally. No such luck, I guess. I do wonder what values of the GOP you think are appealing the electorate now? Also I don't understand "transcending factions" -- Trump's whole message was about factions. Hillary=bad; Trump=good. That was appealing to many of his voters. OK, values of the GOP -- I think as a certain very vocal portion of the country veers further and further left (For Pete's sake, people were excited about a socialist running for POTUS!), and anti-American sentiment is heard more and more often from that same very vocal leftist portion (i.e. we're one of the most racist countries in the world, kneeling during the national anthem, less respect for our history, who do we think we are trying to be the world's police, college students wanting to ban our flag because it stands for imperialism and colonialism, the left thinking most all of the right are deplorables, etc.), the rest of us start to feel more strongly about our love for the ideals upon which this country was built, our Constitution, the ability of the U.S. to do good in the world and provide stability, free market, the rule of law, smaller government (right now esp in health care and regulations of businesses), a strong military, controlled borders. By transcending factions I meant the factions within the GOP. Obviously there wasn't too much infighting to prevent Republicans from winning many offices this election, including the highest in the land.
2) Can't disagree, but when is the last the time the GOP gave a shit about inner cities? I think the GOP has some approaches that might work better than the Democrats ideas which have been NOT working for decades. It certainly looks like the BLM/anti-police movement has resulted in more murders and crimes in certain cities like Ferguson and Chicago. And who is hurt more by that? They want harsher crimes for drug use (might not actually result in what they want, but what they want is to decrease/eliminate the drug trade and drug use), they want to reduce welfare for "lazy" recipients (the belief is that welfare handouts incentivize not working as well as not marrying - it's the fish versus fishing pole, and the end game is more people working, contributing, self-sufficient, and 2 parent households), they want to reduce federal funding for educationo (when has throwing more money at public schools ever resulted in better education? They want vouchers and the free market/competition to improve schools, and more accountability for teachers who are too protected by unions, more efficiency in how schools/districts are run), food stamps, assistance see above welfare comment. They want to repeal national healthcare (and change to a BETTER MORE EFFICIENT, LESS COSTLY system that doesn't grow government), ffs. I agree that the Dems have fallen short, as has Obamacare, it is one of my harshest criticisms of them, but what is the GOP offering? (something that incorporates free market/competition and smaller governmental control - we shall see)3) I don't disagree, but, pot, meet kettle. (I actually think Trump had the audacity to introduce some new ideas, or at least ideas that others didn't have the gumption to introduce
See Michael Moore: 4) The GOP has their own bubble and it's full of fear-mongering too. Scary Muslims (Muslims who are terrorists or who support Sharia law are scary, not all Muslims) and scary Mexicans (illegal aliens who are gang members and drug lords ARE scary!) and build a wall (I still don't get what is so bad about building that danged wall ) and rapists and drug dealers and terrorists, oh my! A yuuuge part of Trump's message played on fear and blame. As to dog-whistling, the GOP has their own guilded set of pipes. SJWs! Liberals! Taking away our freedom! Taking away our guns! Persecuting Christianity! It goes both ways. Yes it does. The GOP is not a victim and they're no different (I think in many ways they are very different, and that's the point of this divisiveness) , they're just another player in the game.
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Post by celawson on Nov 19, 2016 15:33:28 GMT -5
All right, chica, put yer dukes up! 1) The GOP isn't dead, no. I never thought they were, but I hoped some of their extreme rhetoric was going to be sidelined, because it wasn't working anymore, and they would become more center/moderate, which would be extremely appealing to me personally. No such luck, I guess. I do wonder what values of the GOP you think are appealing the electorate now? Also I don't understand "transcending factions" -- Trump's whole message was about factions. Hillary=bad; Trump=good. That was appealing to many of his voters. 2) Can't disagree, but when is the last the time the GOP gave a shit about inner cities? They want harsher crimes for drug use, they want to reduce welfare for "lazy" recipients, they want to reduce federal funding for education, food stamps, assistance. They want to repeal national healthcare, ffs. I agree that the Dems have fallen short, as has Obamacare, it is one of my harshest criticisms of them, but what is the GOP offering? 3) I don't disagree, but, pot, meet kettle. 4) The GOP has their own bubble and it's full of fear-mongering too. Scary Muslims and scary Mexicans and build a wall and rapists and drug dealers and terrorists, oh my! A yuuuge part of Trump's message played on fear and blame. As to dog-whistling, the GOP has their own guilded set of pipes. SJWs! Liberals! Taking away our freedom! Taking away our guns! Persecuting Christianity! It goes both ways. The GOP is not a victim and they're no different, they're just another player in the game. Oh wow, how did I not see this until a few minutes ago? Actually, I know why - still figuring out how to best navigate this site. I initially turned email notifications on for all sorts of things, and my poor Inbox. So then I turned them all off. Now I'm going to turn on only the 'if they quote me' email notification. That way I will respond more quickly to conversations and keep it flowing better. Sorry! I will be back to answer this, but I think I have to run my daughter to the store for a bit. Good points, Cristina - Mis punos son arriba!
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Post by celawson on Nov 19, 2016 14:09:06 GMT -5
Like the Hamilton ambush directed towards Mike Pence, I suspect this sort of thing will be happening more after this election than ever before. Perhaps a thread could be handy to discuss. Here's one: First Lady Fashion Designer Refuses to Dress First Lady-Elect www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/11/18/fashion-designer-refuses-to-dress-melania-trump.htmlMy childish response: Part of me wants Melania to alter this designer's fashions in an awkward way and wear them in a high profile event.
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Post by celawson on Nov 19, 2016 13:25:59 GMT -5
On the spacebar issue: don't use the Quick Reply feature. It's a google issue, not a board issue. And it's sporadic. It's happening for me on a *different* messageboard currently, but not on here. Thank you!
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Post by celawson on Nov 19, 2016 12:58:02 GMT -5
Erm....rooster? HAHAHAHAHA!
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Post by celawson on Nov 19, 2016 12:53:23 GMT -5
I'm torn here, Rob. On one hand, I agree with you. But on the other, the actual words in the statement were respectful, if not the ambush at the venue. Still, for a president-elect who didn't win the popular vote, and for marginalized groups who are fearful (whether or not the fears are unfounded), there could have been an early opportunity for a small gesture to assuage some fears here. Now, given the vitriol we're seeing on the left, it probably wouldn't have gone very far, but perhaps every little bit counts.
BTW,#BoycottHamilton is trending on Twitter. Interesting. (Thatspacebar thinghappeningagain)
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Post by celawson on Nov 19, 2016 12:15:11 GMT -5
Oh, Donald. Yup, this is the sort of thing I am worried about, too. When half the country is freaking out about him, a different and gracious response would have helped begin to alleviate fears. I can think of about a thousand ways he could have responded which would have been better. Instead, he commands, "Apologize!"
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