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Post by celawson on Nov 30, 2016 23:30:11 GMT -5
Ok I admit, that was a joke. But seriously, where is the money now?
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Post by celawson on Nov 30, 2016 17:31:16 GMT -5
So does everyone get their money back?
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Post by celawson on Nov 30, 2016 14:15:33 GMT -5
Much of the trouble with modern discourse is that these serious terms are bandied about way too often and for words or behaviors that aren't deserving. I, for one, wouldn't mind if the term misogynist is reserved for those who really do hate all women. Why not? And if not, what term should we use for those people, then? Call Trump a cad, or something else apt, and reserve the term misogynist for the true misogynists.
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Post by celawson on Nov 30, 2016 13:57:42 GMT -5
I will say this about that video -- My take is that Trump was trying to act "cool" with a younger, hipper guy who was clearly instigating the locker room talk which ensued. And if I recall correctly, once Trump was out of the bus and actually greeting the woman they were talking about, he gave her a stiff and respectful hug (again, totally prodded by Bush), and he said something in reference to that greeting like "I think Melania would be okay with this." If looking at that video as a whole (as I remember it, don't have time to watch it again right now), no, I wouldn't label him a misogynist. I guess we all have our thresholds for name calling. Well, what are you calling "name-calling"? And what do you consider "misogyny"? I personally believe Trump is sexist, but just about any guy with his upbringing and position would be. Women are a commodity he's been able to obtain for his entire life, so of course he views them as trophies and pussies. If you want to pedantically adhere to the most literal meaning of the word misogyny, no, I don't think he hates all women, or women in general. I'm sure he can give credit to a woman who's good at her job (especially if he doesn't find her sexually attractive), and that he has no ill will towards any particular woman based on her having a vagina. He probably considers himself quite the chivalrous gentleman in his own mind. I wasn't shocked or appalled by the "grab her by the pussy" comments. Anyone who thinks a large percentage of men of all social classes don't talk like that in private is kidding themselves, and of course most of those men don't "hate" women, and wouldn't even necessarily overtly discriminate against women. But it certainly speaks to a certain disrespectful mindset. So if you accept that "misogyny" is a sliding scale and not a binary quality, I really doubt you'd be blowing off language like that if it came from, say, Bill Clinton (who also would not shock me at all if it came out that he'd said something like that). Interestingly, I agree with everything you just wrote, except I have to think about the Bill Clinton part. But I do tend to think of terms like 'misogynist' and 'racist' to be binary, when someone is labeled with that term. And I do think of misogyny as hatred towards women.
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Post by celawson on Nov 30, 2016 13:44:37 GMT -5
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Post by celawson on Nov 30, 2016 13:28:17 GMT -5
I will say this about that video -- My take is that Trump was trying to act "cool" with a younger, hipper guy who was clearly instigating the locker room talk which ensued. And if I recall correctly, once Trump was out of the bus and actually greeting the woman they were talking about, he gave her a stiff and respectful hug (again, totally prodded by Bush), and he said something in reference to that greeting like "I think Melania would be okay with this."
If looking at that video as a whole (as I remember it, don't have time to watch it again right now), no, I wouldn't label him a misogynist. I guess we all have our thresholds for name calling.
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Post by celawson on Nov 30, 2016 12:10:53 GMT -5
So Donald Trump already seems to be meeting his campaign promise of keeping American jobs. Carrier, an air conditioning company, (and also a unit of United Technologies which has huge defense contracts with the U.S.), reached a deal to keep 1000 jobs in Indiana, rather than moving to Mexico. www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/carrier-deal-trump-jobs-indiana/I have to go to work, and I can't read up on all the details nor comment much, but I do think it's impressive that Trump's already working on this before he is even sworn into office. I'm sensing there will actually be change with this administration.
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Post by celawson on Nov 30, 2016 11:24:46 GMT -5
I'm SHOCKED that there are several women so far. Isn't Trump a misogynist? *rolls eyes*
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Post by celawson on Nov 30, 2016 10:50:03 GMT -5
That's so funny! I don't know much Nickelback, but I do remember hearing a song or two on the radio some years back, and I liked one of them. What's so wrong with that band? I've heard Nickelback hate before, and I'm curious what started it. Maybe time for a Google search. That didn't take long: www.businessinsider.com/heres-why-everyone-hates-nickelback-2016-4This is an analysis done by a PhD student in Finland who looked at reviews of the band. Hey, before I quote the article, and before you read the article, why don't you all guess what it's going to say?
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Post by celawson on Nov 29, 2016 19:10:51 GMT -5
"sprightly". heh
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Post by celawson on Nov 29, 2016 18:44:41 GMT -5
In all fairness to the designers of the ice rink, "fish bits" doesn't sound very appetizing regardless.
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Post by celawson on Nov 29, 2016 18:22:28 GMT -5
I am in resolute denial that the chihuahua has a fake set of choppers. Didn't your owner brush your teeth with bacon flavored toothpaste? That's what I did for my dog.
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Post by celawson on Nov 29, 2016 13:45:45 GMT -5
Just make sure it's not a shower curtain.
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Post by celawson on Nov 29, 2016 13:43:02 GMT -5
Here's someone who has a different take on Castro. www.nationalreview.com/article/442515/fidel-castro-brutal-dictatorship-armando-valladeres-cuban-dissidents-tortured“I spent eight years locked in a blackout cell, without sunlight or even artificial light. I never left. I was stuck in a cell, ten feet long, four feet wide, with a hole in the corner to take care of my bodily needs. No running water. Naked. Eight years,” Valladares recalled. “All of the torture, all of the violations of human rights, had one goal: break the prisoner’s resistance and make them accept political rehabilitation. That was their only objective.” After nearly a decade, prison officials adjusted their terms. If Armando would simply sign a document renouncing his beliefs and embracing Communism, he could return to his family. The choice was simple: physical freedom or spiritual liberty. “For many people, it wasn’t practical to resist. Better to sign the paper and leave,” Valladares said. “But for me, signing that paper would have been spiritual suicide.” So how did Valladares do it? How did his faith and spirit endure during those years alone in prison? “In the beginning, I embraced God perhaps for fear of losing my life, since I was in danger of being executed,” he told the National Association of Evangelicals in 1983. But hearing those men proclaim their love for Christ just prior to their executions moved him in ways he could not have imagined: I realized then that Christ could be of help. Not merely by saving my life, but also giving my life, and my death if that was the case, an ethical sense that would dignify them. I believe that it was at that particular moment, and not before, when Christianity, besides being a religious faith, became a way of life that in my own circumstances resulted in resistance — resisting torture, resisting confinement, resisting hunger, and even resisting the constant temptation to join the political rehabilitation and indoctrination programs that would end my predicament. But hey, Vince - at least he was literate! And had some sort of nationalized healthcare (at least before he was thrown into prison). Get your priorities straight!
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Post by celawson on Nov 29, 2016 13:38:13 GMT -5
ohio49er said:
Actually, it's not that he's a scrub quarterback on a scrub team, it's that he's a nationally televised athlete who not very long ago was the star quarterback on a good team, and he's using his celebrity to say and do stupid things. And I'm calling him on it. (Hey, if Ruth Bader Ginsburg can use the word "stupid" referring to Kaepernick's actions, so can I.) I'm simply pleading for leftists to think a little more deeply.
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