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Post by michaelw on Oct 9, 2017 18:14:35 GMT -5
And what happened to Trump's suggestion that people boycott the NFL altogether?
I guess he meant everyone except Mike Pence?
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Post by nighttimer on Oct 9, 2017 18:17:27 GMT -5
Jerry Jones ups the ante and declares any Dallas Cowboys player who "disrespects" the national anthem won't play. Apparently, Jones believes, as several other owners do, that "his" players do not have the right to engage in peaceful protest and if they do, they won't play for him. This heavy-handful, and probably nonenforceable declaration will go down real well in locker rooms across the league. Jerry's sons of bitches will do what he tells them to do. Awaiting the predictable Trump tweet applauding Jerrah for treating his boys like boys. Jones kneeled himself during the anthem. LOL. And now he's kneeling to kiss Dotard Trump's ass ring ass. I said the unity gestures were just that. Gestures and there wasn't anything sincere about it. I was right and so was Jemele Hill of ESPN who got in trouble a few weeks ago when she tweeted in her private account that Trump was a White supremacist. Today, the network suspended Hill for two weeks for supposedly calling for a boycott of Jones' advertisers on her Twitter account. When it comes to the NFL, don't mess around with "the shield" or its shadow commissioner.
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Post by nighttimer on Oct 15, 2017 20:30:01 GMT -5
UPDATE: Free-agent quarterback Colin Kaepernick has filed a grievance against the NFL alleging collusion in relation to his ongoing unemployment. Eventually, we’ll explain what he needs to prove, and what he doesn’t need to prove, in order to show that collusion occurred. For now, let’s focus on what he wants to do.
Per a source with knowledge of the situation, Kaepernick wants to trigger termination of the current Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Article 69, Section 2 of the CBA allows for the agreement to be terminated prematurely in the event of proof of collusion. Under Article 17, Section 16(c) of the CBA, termination can arise from only one incident of collusion involving only one player if there is clear and convincing evidence of a violation.
The ramifications would be enormous, and historical. Kaepernick could give all players a tremendous piece of leverage, moving up the expiration of the contract by more than three years and forcing the owners back to the bargaining table.
Former NFL player Sean Gilbert proposed, in connection with his effort to become the NFLPA’s executive director, the potential termination of the CBA in early 2015, based on collusion arising from the funding rule applicable to guaranteed contracts. Gilbert did not win, and the collusion case was never filed.Getcher popcorn ready.
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Post by robeiae on Oct 18, 2017 16:19:50 GMT -5
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Post by Vince524 on Oct 26, 2017 11:45:25 GMT -5
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Post by nighttimer on Oct 26, 2017 16:05:02 GMT -5
It gets better...Should be very interesting to have some owners sitting across the table from the man who has brought so much misery into their lives and they refuse to hire. The Dolphins and the Cardinals both had their starting quarterbacks go down last Sunday, but instead of calling 1-800-Kapernick, the Fins signed David Fales and the Cards didn't sign anybody. More fuel for Kap's collusion fire and as an estranged fan of his former team, the 0-7 49ers, I sincerely hope he burns the fucking league down to the ground.
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Post by Vince524 on Oct 26, 2017 17:51:10 GMT -5
NFL popularity is down fortune.com/2017/09/20/nfl-monday-night-football-tv-ratings-decline/No matter where you weigh in on this issue, they're losing. If you're for the kneeling, people are upset over Kapernick not playing and any talk about players must stand. If you're against it, you're pissed off when you see people kneel. Personally, I think the NFL would be within it's rights to say, while in uniform, no political statements. If you don't want to stand for the anthem, fine, but no kneeling. If you want to remain off the field, fine. If someone were to where a Make America Great Again something or other during the game, no. But that's my take. How badly are the Giants doing this year? I can't even watch.
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Post by robeiae on Oct 26, 2017 18:25:54 GMT -5
I don't know that the NFL ratings decline can be even partially attributed to this anthem stuff. Really, that article says as much, Vince:
See? He's saying that's a ridiculous reason. I mean, I would agree that it's not helping, but it's not the cause at all.
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Post by Christine on Oct 26, 2017 19:09:07 GMT -5
Personally, I think the NFL would be within it's rights to say, while in uniform, no political statements. If you don't want to stand for the anthem, fine, but no kneeling. So it would be okay to.... sit?
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Post by Vince524 on Oct 26, 2017 19:48:58 GMT -5
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Post by Vince524 on Oct 26, 2017 20:03:57 GMT -5
Personally, I think the NFL would be within it's rights to say, while in uniform, no political statements. If you don't want to stand for the anthem, fine, but no kneeling. So it would be okay to.... sit? Yes. You can choose not to participate. I don't think it's a ridiculous idea. If you work at a service industry job, you can't wear political buttons. Same here. While you're in uniform, you represent the team. You don't have to stand, but sitting is fine. You can not come out. You can't kneel. You can't wear arm bans with messages unless approved. It's to avoid controversy and make everyone feel comfortable. Nobody should be forced to stand for the anthem.
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Post by Christine on Oct 26, 2017 20:15:31 GMT -5
So it would be okay to.... sit? Yes. You can choose not to participate. I don't think it's a ridiculous idea. If you work at a service industry job, you can't wear political buttons. Same here. While you're in uniform, you represent the team. You don't have to stand, but sitting is fine. You can not come out. You can't kneel. You can't wear arm bans with messages unless approved. It's to avoid controversy and make everyone feel comfortable. Nobody should be forced to stand for the anthem. Vince, this whole kerfluffle originated from Kaepernick sitting during the anthem. That was the point of the winky face.
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Post by Vince524 on Oct 26, 2017 20:32:36 GMT -5
Yes. You can choose not to participate. I don't think it's a ridiculous idea. If you work at a service industry job, you can't wear political buttons. Same here. While you're in uniform, you represent the team. You don't have to stand, but sitting is fine. You can not come out. You can't kneel. You can't wear arm bans with messages unless approved. It's to avoid controversy and make everyone feel comfortable. Nobody should be forced to stand for the anthem. Vince, this whole kerfluffle originated from Kaepernick sitting during the anthem. That was the point of the winky face. Which was fine. People can still be offended, but they could be offended by anything. This was my 2 cents as to how it could be handled.
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Post by Christine on Oct 26, 2017 20:40:48 GMT -5
Vince, this whole kerfluffle originated from Kaepernick sitting during the anthem. That was the point of the winky face. Which was fine. People can still be offended, but they could be offended by anything. This was my 2 cents as to how it could be handled. Sorry, I don't mean to badger but I don't understand your reasoning here. You think it was fine for Kaepernick to sit, but not to kneel? You think it would be fine if everyone sat in protest, but you don't think it's okay to kneel in protest? I could be wrong, but I think the point of kneeling was to show more respect than sitting.
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Post by Don on Oct 27, 2017 12:46:13 GMT -5
If you're going to make the NFL apolitical, you have to start by doing away with the military paying to put on recruitment shows before and during the game. No more Air Force flybys or Navy giveaways, and definitely no more Star Spangled Banner. That's how politics got introduced to the NFL in the first place.
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