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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 9:26:03 GMT -5
Well, we're a federated representative republic with oligarchic tendencies. I thought we were an autonomous collective.
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Post by celawson on May 26, 2017 10:14:14 GMT -5
Someone on Twitter suggested that Trump may have been fuming because Obama spoke in Germany today, drawing a yuuuge adoring crowd. Obama accepted the invitation long before the election, so he wasn't timing it to upstage Trump. Still. I'll bet Trump was pissed. Whether that factored into his behavior...well, who knows, but I don't rule it out. I am a little suspicious about Obama's timing of his European trip. I mean, he was in Italy when Trump was, and now he's made a speech in Germany? If I remember correctly, GW graciously wrote Obama a letter and then slipped away to his ranch and didn't make a peep for a while after Obama came into office.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 10:28:47 GMT -5
Someone on Twitter suggested that Trump may have been fuming because Obama spoke in Germany today, drawing a yuuuge adoring crowd. Obama accepted the invitation long before the election, so he wasn't timing it to upstage Trump. Still. I'll bet Trump was pissed. Whether that factored into his behavior...well, who knows, but I don't rule it out. I am a little suspicious about Obama's timing of his European trip. I mean, he was in Italy when Trump was, and now he's made a speech in Germany? If I remember correctly, GW graciously wrote Obama a letter and then slipped away to his ranch and didn't make a peep for a while after Obama came into office. The trip was arranged last year, long before Trump won, while Obama was still President., in connection with Berlin's celebration of the 500th anniversary of the Protestant Church. r2017.org/en/german-protestant-kirchentag-in-berlin-wittenberg/www.churchofengland.org/about-us/work-other-churches/reformation-anniversary.aspx. (scroll down to see events in Berlin May 24-28 relating to the anniversary. German officials asked Obama to speak at those events. They were not scheduled to coincide with Trump's trip, but were set long before. So was Obama's speech. www.kirchentag.de/english/programme/obama_and_makgoba.htmlwww.cnn.com/2017/04/12/politics/obama-germany-angela-merkel-trump/index.htmlNo conspiracy. It is a coincidence. ( I'll add that even if it weren't coincidence, Obama is perfectly free, as is any ex-president, to speak at such events.)
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Post by celawson on May 26, 2017 10:30:20 GMT -5
Well then, maybe Trump is trying to upstage Obama? I don't know; it just seems fishy to me.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 10:42:32 GMT -5
It's a coincidence. There are a zillion church things on the internet, in German and English, discussing the celebrations and anticipating Obama's speech.
The timing would likely not even be noticeable, except that Obama is extremely popular with our European allies, and Trump is increasingly unpopular.
Unless you want to think Martin Luther, the Protestant faith, NATO and/or the entire German government is in on the grand plot to upstage Trump...it is coincidence.
And of course, to believe that, you also have to believe our election was fixed, and that everyone knew Trump would win the election.
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Post by celawson on May 26, 2017 10:49:56 GMT -5
I'm just teasing, Cassandra. (But I did suspect strongly that Trump would win the election. )
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 11:13:03 GMT -5
Wait...are you in on the fix?
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Post by Angie on May 26, 2017 12:53:46 GMT -5
C.E.'s a Russian! Get 'er!
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 13:26:44 GMT -5
*lights torch* *waves pitchfork*
You have the hot tar ready, Angie?
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Post by maxinquaye on May 26, 2017 16:12:02 GMT -5
*lights torch* *waves pitchfork* You have the hot tar ready, Angie? Angie and Cass, working together. The lions are laying down with the lambs. Earlier the emergency alarm here was tested, but now I think it was actually horns. Waiting for the first seal to break now. Any moment now...
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Post by maxinquaye on May 26, 2017 16:16:30 GMT -5
This did happen at the NATO summit. The tangerine tit is not the only person who behave in a silly manner.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 16:18:14 GMT -5
if I'm not mistaken, once Angie and I are done razing all the cities on earth and slaying a seventh part of mankind, one of us must drink the oceans whilst the other swallows the sun and explodes into a supernova, destroying all life and bringing on the seven ages of darkness.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 16:20:33 GMT -5
This did happen at the NATO summit. The tangerine tit is not the only person who behave in a silly manner. It is all such middle-school-hallway stuff really. Sad. Funny -- but sad.
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Post by michaelw on May 26, 2017 20:12:52 GMT -5
Unless you want to think Martin Luther, the Protestant faith, NATO and/or the entire German government is in on the grand plot to upstage Trump...it is coincidence. I always knew NATO was up to no good. Disappointed to hear about protestantism, though.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 20:22:31 GMT -5
It was Martin Luther who really disappointed me. I thought once he was dead, he'd straighten out his act.
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