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Post by nighttimer on Mar 27, 2017 11:55:32 GMT -5
Oh. That's why. Outraged over the Outrage Trolls and therefore troll them back. Got it. Lol. I'm not outraged. And if I wanted to troll them, I'd tweet my comments to them, no? I doubt they're reading this, though I guess anything is possible. Regardless, I do think this kind of manufactured outrage from people who can't be bothered to learn the facts is bad news. Shit, it's part of Trump's MO, as well. It comes from people more interested in getting noticed than in actually doing something helpful, imo (again, that very obviously includes Trump and most of his goons). But hey, if you think such behavior doesn't warrant any criticism or discussion, fair enough. No problem here. Criticize or discuss away. I'm only commenting on a comment. If "Manufactured Outrage" is a thing, it's been a thing long before Trump came along and took it to the next level. It seems a bit of a reach to say this is Trump's modus operandi and therefore has invaded the entire Body Politic and infected it. I'm fine with blaming Trump for anything from my toast being burnt to my toilet backing up, but I can't blame him for this. As long as the clothing covers the body parts it should and it doesn't smell like a pig sty, I can't say I've ever given any thought to what I or anyone else wears on an airplane.
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Post by nighttimer on Mar 27, 2017 11:38:43 GMT -5
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Post by nighttimer on Mar 27, 2017 9:23:32 GMT -5
So why are we talking about it then? Oh. That's why. Outraged over the Outrage Trolls and therefore troll them back. Got it. [/quote]As long as you're not going shirtless or your thong underwear is showing, who cares what you're wearing on a plane? If leggings and t-shirts make you look like a don't care slob, does a top hat and tails or a slinky evening dress mean you're a snob? Besides, if worst comes to worst, it may not matter much anyway. So, dress casual, be comfortable and wear clean underwear. Not that it will make a difference, but your mother will be thankfully relieved.
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Post by nighttimer on Mar 27, 2017 5:55:32 GMT -5
This keeps getting better...or worse, depending on your perspective. Newsflash: A Black man caught with a White woman used to be a crime punishable by death and worse than death. In the twisted little minds of sickos like James Jackson or Dylan Roof, it still is. Daring to stray out of your lane and forgetting your place can quite literally cost you your life. Get Out isn't just a movie. It's a terrifying reality.
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Post by nighttimer on Mar 24, 2017 15:20:55 GMT -5
Breaking news -- source says Obama has told Ryan to pull the health care bill. Typo, Freudian slip or brain fart? We report. You decide.
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Post by nighttimer on Mar 24, 2017 11:05:12 GMT -5
It's big news here in NYC, but then, it happened here. A racist murderer traveling to our city from another state specifically to target random black strangers in midtown -- we're pretty upset about it, I promise, and every local news outlet is covering it. Since my news feed is obviously picking up that I live in NYC, and also, this would be the kind of story I'd click on, it probably ensures that I get every possible article on it. Most likely my news feed is not representative of the way this story is being covered elsewhere. I'm genuinely curious for those of you who live elsewhere -- did you hear about this story, outside of my posting an article? I did, but then my radar is highly attuned to that sort of news. I shared it in my social media feed. Otherwise? No local coverage, though the radicalized student who crashed his car on the OSU campus and attacked students with a knife, did get referenced after the London copycat terrorist attack. But another dead Black guy? In NYC? How many does that make this week?
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Post by nighttimer on Mar 23, 2017 18:18:21 GMT -5
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Post by nighttimer on Mar 23, 2017 14:27:09 GMT -5
Even if this hadn't gone down the same time as the London attack, this story would have gotten run over by most of the press. The body count was too small,the victim was a nobody, and the motivation too common.
Sorry for the cynicism, but Black life goes cheap. The cops found a man and his girlfriend gunned down in their home at 2:30 in the morning. Who were they and why did they have to die? Only the killer knows, but most likely we won't. There's never a shortage of senseless and unprovoked acts of violent murder to steal our attention away.
It's not paranoia when they really are out to get you.
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Post by nighttimer on Mar 23, 2017 14:10:27 GMT -5
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Post by nighttimer on Mar 23, 2017 12:56:45 GMT -5
This story starts with Maxine Waters tweeting, "get ready for impeachment" in response to the recent revelations about FBI investigating Trump campaign links to Russia. But for me, the real fun begins when it gets to Feinstein and her comments in talking to anti-Trump protestors. To paraphrase: Protestor: "Trump violates the Constitution every day. How do we get him out?" DF: "Many people looking into things. I can't say anymore, but I think he'll get himself out." Not "we should impeach him", or "we need to figure out how to fight this", but "I think it will happen, and he'll bring it on himself". Pretty quietly said, and calmly, for such a bold statement. If the president has access to information the press and public do not, it's not a leap to guess the same applies to Maxine Waters and Diane Feinstein as two long-tenured Congresscritters. There is no smoking gun implicating Trump directly to his campaign's ties to the Kremlin. But the buck stops at his desk and the FBI investigating a sitting president does not bode well for his prospects of remaining that way. Premature? Yeah, probably. But still, it's been a while since any Administration started off under such an ethical cloud and despite the nay saying of Trump and his supporters, the clouds are not dissipating. Quite the contrary, they're getting darker.
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Post by nighttimer on Mar 22, 2017 15:22:17 GMT -5
Quick question, for Rob I guess: what did Charlie Chaplin do that rises to the Cosby level? I had a quick poke around the interwebs but didn't see too much, so I thought I'd ask. I'm not rob and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night, but here's the thing about Charlie Chaplin. He liked 'em young.
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Post by nighttimer on Mar 22, 2017 12:51:32 GMT -5
Been meaning to mention that I remember the discussion on Bill Cosby, and I don't remember Ohio going easy on him at all. Mod note: I agree, Vince, but let's drop all the other message board talk. Modly derail/teaching moment: (1) I believe Opty when he says he didn't intend to reference another message board. At the same time, I totally get why Ohio thought he was doing so, since I did as well. I was an active participant in that thread, and vividly remember it (and particularly remember Ohio's position because it was pretty much mine). But I don't recall Opty participating in that thread, and indeed, I think he may not have been active in that forum at that time. So. I think it was a coincidence that Opty's bit of hyperbole coincided with that thread. So -- bygones are bygones on that point, m'K? Though this does go to show that hyperbole is done at one's own risk... 2) Even though another message board wasn't intentionally referenced, I still think this is an excellent example of one of the many good reasons for our rule not to drag discussions from other boards into discussions here: it is impossible to defend yourself without also dragging in the conversation from the other message board. If you can't find the relevant thread, and the other person got it wrong/invented facts/misunderstood your position, etc.,, you've got this wrong allegation hanging out there with no means of countering it. No one wants to be in that position, am I right? And even if you can find the thread, and can defend yourself, the whole thread here then becomes about an exchange from another board, leaving anyone who doesn't remember that discussion bored and mystified. Believe me, I understand the temptation -- I have a good memory and more than once have itched to point out something someone said elsewhere. But it's just much better for discussions here if we don't do that. Hence, one reason for the rule. I agree and concur, Cassandra, but I emphasized the one word of your post I find to be problematic. I don't believe in coincidences. The Bill Cosby reference was a direct shot based upon another thread I started on another board under another name. It wasn't arbitrary and it didn't fall out of the sky and it wasn't a fluke and it wasn't any sort of "coincidence." I believed this board was meant to be something of a reset, a clean slate and a fresh start from zero. In reality, there's no such thing. You can't reset someone's perceptions of another person and wherever they go they are going to take those perceptions with them and respond accordingly. That said, I'm going to try to remove any reference---however obliquely---to other boards, other threads, other contentious debates. They have no relevance to The Colline Gate. This is now and that should be considered then. Leave the past in the past.
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Post by nighttimer on Mar 21, 2017 15:11:58 GMT -5
John Wayne's viewpoint there is sad and wrong, imo. And it's fair to note that he said this (along with some bad stuff about Native Americans, if I recall correctly). But this viewpoint--however horrible one finds it to be--is not equivalent to secretly filming women in bathrooms, imo. Causing intentional harm to actual, identifiable people is worse than just saying something ignorant, I think. Really, if one wants to point to an icon who largely gets a pass for his awful behavior, I think Chaplin is a far better example. Again, he's far worse than Berry. He's right there with Cosby, though possibly far worse than him as well, in some respects. Yet, few seem to realize this. Regardless, I don't see any need to forgive any of them. I can still appreciate their accomplishments sans such forgiveness, and it's not like they need my forgiveness, now or in the past. Eye of the beholder, and all that. An admitted racist like Wayne is every bit as detestable to me as a peeping pervert like Berry. Some will forever regard Jane Fonda as "Hanoi Jane" the comforter of America's enemies and Fatty Arbuckle as a rapist or Jimmy Page as a Satanist. That's their look-out, but I don't feel a need to join them in their condemnations. Whenever we get into a "who's worse" contest there are always going to be far more egregious examples than others. Filming women in the restroom is skeevy, but drugging, raping or murdering women is much worse in my less-than-humble-opinion. I enjoyed John Wayne flicks despite his appalling advocacy of White supremacy just as much as I enjoyed Bill Cosby's stand-up comedy and TV shows from The Electric Company to Black History: Lost, Stolen or Strayed to The Cosby Show despite him being a serial rapist. The enjoyment is tainted by their bad acts, but I won't act as though I never liked John Wayne or Bill Cosby or Woody Allen or Roman Polanski or Robert Blake or O.J. Simpson. Just not so much anymore.
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Post by nighttimer on Mar 21, 2017 14:58:32 GMT -5
And how the hell can his party continue to support his perpetual, cataclysmic tantrum? Never mind sheep; the Republicans look like they've become the party of lemmings. Then I hope they all hold hands as they go over the cliff. From their questioning of FBI Director Comey, the Republicans made it obvious in 15 points where their true concerns lie. It's pretty easy to determine what the Republicans motives are. Make it look as if they're investigating the Trump/Russia connections, but don't actually do any investigating. This is exactly why this investigation must be taken away from the Republican-controlled Congress and turned over to an independent commission to pursue without partisan bias which is exactly why the Republican-controlled Congress will never allow that to happen.
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Post by nighttimer on Mar 21, 2017 13:07:52 GMT -5
If we should only celebrate the passing of the Perfect Human Being we would have no one to celebrate. If for nothing other than "Johnny B. Goode" Chuck Berry would be an towering figure in rock n' roll. Or as John Lennon put it, "If you tried to give rock and roll another name, you might call it 'Chuck Berry.'
Nobody's saying Berry deserves a pass for the more disgusting aspects of his life. But if this guy is still considered a beloved American icon by many even after saying this...
With a lot of blacks, there’s quite a bit of resentment along with their dissent, and possibly rightfully so. But we can’t all of a sudden get down on our knees and turn everything over to the leadership of the blacks. I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don’t believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people. ~ John Wayne
...then people can find it in their hearts to forgive, if not necessarily forget, the sins of Chuck Berry, but then maybe some hearts are just bigger than others.
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